[ SECRET POST #6414 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6414 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Tropes or plots you'd like to see more of

[philstar22]

Oh, so much yes. I love a good redemption story, but so often it isn't believable. So often characters don't have to work for it, and everyone just accepts it without question.

Re: Tropes or plots you'd like to see more of

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah it's always like they do one action that risks their life then suddenly everything they did before to cause the whole situation to happen in the first place is forgotten about. Plots don't treat that as "a start" or "an opportunity for them to continue to change" which they should, and treat it like the redemption is magically complete.

Stories where characters struggle with redemption and fail exist, tons of tragic villains, but ones where they struggle + succeed are pretty rare.

same anon

[(Anonymous)]

Especially struggle + succeed without dying.

Re: same anon

[philstar22]

Very true. I mean, I do like a redemption equals death story sometimes. Darth Vader's redemption will always work for me. But it is way too overdone. It would be nice to see more often a character who has to work for it. And then has to face the people they harmed and actually make amends.

Re: same anon

[(Anonymous)]

There are definitely places it works and many places where it's the only thing that would work in-story, but there's also a huge number of "stories purposely written so that it's the only thing that would work" and it gets kinda rote. It's easy to write off a previously horrible person who sacrificed their life to save the world because nobody has to deal with them any more, and they don't have to deal with the huge numbers of people they hurt after that, because well they're conveniently-for-the-plot dead.

But it'd be nice to see reformed villains having to deal with the consequences of their actions and actually trying to make up for it somehow that isn't so simple, if not easy.

Re: same anon

[philstar22]

100 % agree. Consequences are nice. Make it believable. If you killed my whole family, I'm not going to suddenly be best friends with you just because you decide not to be evil anymore.

Re: same anon

[(Anonymous)]

Getting sort of meta with this and not to ramble too much, but part of why I want more of these stories is there are far too few stories like that in fiction to point to as examples and role models where someone who was once were assholes or had horrible views or on the side of metaphorical baddies managed to become a good guy in the end and what they did in order to make it up to the people they wronged, because simply changing their mind is obviously not enough if they hurt people. Maybe those people never forgive them, don't believe they've changed, and don't do anything to encourage them to continue to be good. And that's just something they have to deal with. That's part of the struggle.

Idk, a lot of people could use stories and role models and examples like that. But maybe it's too complicated for mass media.