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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-08-02 08:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #6419 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6419 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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03. [SPOILERS for City of Miracles, Torment: Tides of Numenera]




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04. [SPOILERS for Ghost: Rite Here Rite Now]




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05. [WARNING for discussion of pedophilia]

[I My Me! Strawberry Eggs]



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06. [WARNING for probably discussion of IRL genocide]




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07. [WARNING for discussion of abuse]




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09. [WARNING for discussion of rape]

[The Saint of Steel]



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[personal profile] fscom 2024-08-03 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
09. [WARNING for discussion of rape]
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[The Saint of Steel]

(Anonymous) 2024-08-03 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
This author has been on my reading list for ages but somehow I've never started one of her books because I keep hearing such wide-ranging feedback about them... they're either really amazing, or... well, like this.

OP

(Anonymous) 2024-08-03 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
For better or worse, I recommend starting with Digger.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2024-08-03 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks, I'll keep that one in mind!

(Anonymous) 2024-08-03 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
I really think that it's a style thing.

It might work for you as a style of romance writing, it might not, but it is a question of style.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-03 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
A genre thing too. Those books are specifically a takeoff of bodice-ripper romances.

(Also the heroes are all depressed, ptsd ridden neurotic paladins who are notorious for going suddenly magically berserk and killing bystanders. I get not liking the setup and metaphor but I don't think she's proposing all het relationships are based on that.)

(Anonymous) 2024-08-03 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
Right so I was curious and read a few pages in.

I think the biggest flaw ? Was presenting relatively interesting concepts with a dead god and trauma and then completely negating all sense of seriousness with YA level dialogue and romance.

The sheer amount of "uh...,ummm...., gahhhh... and err..." Was not something I enjoyed skimming through. Plus the fact that these 30+ year old characters lit act 10 years younger is well. Not that appealing. If it marketed itself as YA romance I would be much more forgiving of it. Otherwise I'm surprised people seem to like this series if all it is seems to be is a YA quirky heroine who totally isn't attractive + dangerous broken man who is very emo about being broken.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-03 06:42 am (UTC)(link)
It's not YA. It's adult romance. It's just written with a light, conversational tone. Again, it's a style thing, you can like it or not, but it's very much not YA. The characters are clearly and unambiguously adults, not just in their age but in their maturity.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-03 12:57 pm (UTC)(link)
If something is written in a juvenile style, the sort of style one is used to seeing in YA, then it doesn't matter that it's an adult romance. People are still going to think it comes across as YA.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-03 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Calling a writing style juvenile just because you don’t like it is pretty juvenile.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-03 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I suspect most of those people haven't read much adult romance, then. It's written in a category romance style (Deliberately! She wrote them after going on a "historical" Harlequin bender!) which obviously isn't going to sound like adult SFF or literary stuff, and is probably aimed at a slightly lower reading level too, but that doesn't mean it's YA.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2024-08-03 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
i mean, i don't think you have to like these tropes (or this take on the trope), but this type of consent negotiation is a trope (usually the men are literally dangerous lmao) that people like to read not an advice column on consent. by the use of paladin is this also medieval-ly? yeah that's the trope.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-03 06:41 am (UTC)(link)
I've only read one of them. But in that instance, it's using that trope but the characters are more sort of mutually-traumatized woobies, and they're dancing around each other because neither of them feels like they can trust other people without being hurt.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2024-08-03 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
ah, not the romance trope, the fanfic trope. do you know if consent negotiation is one-sided as OP said, or are both woobies doing it?

(Anonymous) 2024-08-03 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry to say I don't remember! I'd have to reread.