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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-08-11 04:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #6428 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6428 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2024-08-11 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt - Even within the upper class, nobody calls them poor. It's noted that the Bennet sisters' dowries are not impressive, that's true. It's also noted that Mrs. Bennet in particular does not have an upper class background and neither does her brother's family, the Gardiners. Even Lady Catherine, the snobbiest of all the characters, takes issue with that background more than she does their finances. Anyone who looks on P&P as a Cinderella story or a rich man/poor girl story is likely misunderstanding the social context.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-11 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I meant nobody in present day outside of rich snobs would call an established local landlord family poor, and it'd be inaccurate for a movie to portray them to a general audience as poor. But yeah, agreed in general.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-11 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Whoops, sorry, misread your comment! And yeah, that's a good point. English society at that time was very class conscious and your economic status was part of that, but it's super complicated. For example, a family who had been landowners for many generations but didn't have a lot of money would still be accorded a significant amount of social status - and in some peoples' eyes, that counts for more than someone who made a lot of money off of trade.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-11 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
cf Persuasion, except Wentworth made his money in war.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-11 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. Sir Walter Elliot and his oldest daughter were insufferable snobs about their status, even though Sir Walter had clearly mismanaged the estate to the point where he had to rent it out and live in cheaper accommodations. Lady Russell wasn't as hostile about it, but she clearly valued Anne so much and wanted a more promising match than Wentworth, before he became a captain and earned his fortune.

But note that after he returns as a captain and with money, it seems to carry with it more status than earning your money via trade, so that's a slight nuance there as well.

(Anonymous) 2024-08-12 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
True!