[ SECRET POST #095 ]

[grayout.livejournal.com]

⌈ Secret Post #095 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe.

1.

2.

3.

4.

5.

6.

7.

8.

9.

10.



Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 30 secrets from Secret Submission Post #014.
Secrets Not Posted: [1] broken links, 0 not!secrets, 0 not!fandom.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Wednesday, April 11th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: Here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[longlongwaytogo.livejournal.com]

Female characters are usually a problem. *sigh*. At least for me. In every show. I haven't seen enough of Heroes to know about all the wangst, though of course I noticed the choppy plotting. I'm so behind in watchign that show...
I like Hiro and Ando. And if they're like your original characters, that's really cool. :)

[pretentioustfu.livejournal.com]

I think Heroes suffers from the same thing SaGa Frontier did, to be honest: too many characters, not enough focus on specific characters OR on the "whys and wherefores." Instead, we're just thrown in with a "suspend all disbelief" and honestly, I think that's kind of lazy writing. And yeah. I was liking Cameron in House for a while, but she got a case of Mary Sue I wonder if anyone knows how to cure THAT and ugh. I'd love to like more female characters, but most of the ones I do like are from anime, manga, and video games.

[longlongwaytogo.livejournal.com]

I didn't see SaGa Frontier either... Sometimes though, I do like something that's pure fantasy/action/suspend disbelief stuff... without a lot of character. But if it feels like they're trying for character and don't get there, then it's annoying.
Why are so many female characters just irritating... *sigh*. It's why I love the Jasper Fforde 'Thursday Next' series (books). She's great. :D

[pretentioustfu.livejournal.com]

I didn't see SaGa Frontier either... Sometimes though, I do like something that's pure fantasy/action/suspend disbelief stuff... without a lot of character. But if it feels like they're trying for character and don't get there, then it's annoying.

Exactly.

Why are so many female characters just irritating... *sigh*.

I can tell you why. At least, in a lot of mainstream fandoms (whatever country it's from), there's this want to make the female character appeal to "everywoman." So she falls into an appropriate cultural trope, and she's sadly mostly just there for the female viewers' identification or self-insertion, or more commonly, for the male viewers' wankfodder.

Therefore, most female characters will be hormonal/bitchy/if it were a man bipolar, man-hungry, wanting BABIES NOW, with a few nods to equality and modernity but still Knowing Their Place, and so on and so on.

I'd so love to see more female characters who are capable of keeping a level head, maybe a few pounds over the norm, who have more pressing concerns than the usual chick-lit stuff, and who didn't want kids because of their more important issues/because they just didn't.

[longlongwaytogo.livejournal.com]

I totally agree with that. I really would love to see it. Female characters who are actually... characters. Luckily with britcoms, though there aren't that many female characters usually, the ones there are, they're allowed to be quirky. And aren't usually forced to be pretty, just like the men aren't.
I think one day I'm going to write a list of all the tv shows books and movies I can think of where the women are actually good.
One of my favourite shows has a fantastic female character though... :D Not at all cliche. http://community.livejournal.com/heard_of_it/11308.html But she's sure in the minority. Which is such a huge pity.

And yep, I think that's what's going on as well.