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Agreed. Easy mode is fine, but cheat codes are literally cheating. Like, it's right there in the name. Use them if you want, but acknowledge that you did in fact cheat at the game.

DA

I think it's arguable whether cheating even matters in a single player game; nobody is saying it's not cheating, OP is saying it's not "wrong."

And I guess it doesn't hurt anyone else's experience, so have at? Ofc this applies to strictly single player games only for obvious reasons.

See, my problem is OP trying to compare cheating to playing a game on Easy mode, because the two aren't the same thing. Easy mode is playing a game the way it was intended utilizing an option that the developers put into the game (difficulty levels) in order to make it the most fun for you. There is nothing wrong in the slightest with playing a game using options that are provided to you in the game itself.

Using cheat codes is where it gets muddier, because technically that IS "wrong" in the sense that you're altering the game rather than just choosing a different option in the game. You really can't compare the two things at all.

Can you tell us what sort of "wrong" it is? Morally? Ethically?

I think that depends on what is meant with cheat codes. I think of cheat codes a la "rosebud", which was in the official The Sims guidebook.

And at the end of the day, if it's only your own gaming experience you're altering, who gives a shit? You bought the game, you get to play it however you want. If you want to play it with infinite money, sure, why not?

Who care

I imagine people who watch other people's solitaire games to make sure they aren't hitting the 'undo' button too much. On principle

I think the second commenter is exactly that kind of pedant. I’m so annoyed with myself that I fell for it and fed the troll all evening.

some cheat codes are literally the Easiest Game Mode tho? like, there are games where godmode is the only easy way to experience the story of the game. there are some games that do have a Story mode or a No Deaths modes for that purpose exactly, I don't see why cheats that do that couldn't count as such.

SA
shout out to Hades literally having a God Mode as an easy mode, it saved my life and is one of the reasons I love this game so much. so thoughtful for us losers ♥

NA

Ohhh, it does? I bought it in a moment of madness after seeing a streamer play it, before remembering that I suck at games and can't play games like that lol

I haven't even opened the game once because I didn't want to deal with the frustration.

AYRT
We don’t actually agree. I’m cool with cheat codes. They’re built in for a reason and whether the player discovers them for themselves or gets them from an outside source, they’re meant to be used by anyone who wants to use them.
But I’m not aware of any cheat codes existing in modern games. And usually when anyone talks about cheat codes for games now, it’s shorthand for hacking, which is not the same thing at all. In the case of hacking, it’s to bypass paywalls and get free access to paid content. And if that’s what the OP means, then I think they really suck.

But people hack single player games to give themselves unlimited resources and play at 2x speeds or whatever all the time?

Hack or mod? Or command console? Command console is not cheating, it’s the PC version of cheat codes. Mods are also not cheating; they create a different gameplay.

I think you'll have to define what you mean by "hack" because if you don't mean "any method where you go into the game code/files/saves/etc and change it" then you'll need to be more specific.

So an 'infinite gold mod' is not cheating, just different gameplay?

Yes. It has modified the gameplay so you no longer have to earn gold. Personally not my thing but whatever because it’s just the same as the cheat codes from 20 years ago. Which I never saw the point in those but so what? There’s no reason for players not to use them if they want.

"It's not cheating, it's the same as cheat codes"

I'm just gonna stop now. Gl

Oh you’re THAT anon. You’re the “I’m not a troll, I’m autistic” anon that’s been trolling here for the last six months claiming to have been an active participant for ten years. Damn. I thought we’d finally gotten rid of you. I can keep dreaming, I guess.

SA

Like Stardew Valley is one of the most hackable and moddable games and people actively do this daily for infinite gold or items, are people crying about this being morally wrong somewhere?

People hack single player games to avoid micro transactions same as mmos. The shorthand for that is cheat codes.

They mod or use command console to get in game resources (that are already free) faster. The shorthand for that is mods or CC.

Why are we talking about single player games as though they're all filled with micro transactions?

Am I talking to people who only play mobile games? What is happening

Consoles, actually. I play on every system and on consoles (where there is no command console and very limited mod access) most games now have micro transactions despite being single player. It’s very common to hack those games to get the premium stuff and it’s called using cheat codes.
Phone games get hacked all the time too, but they have from the beginning and honestly I don’t see that ever changing. But I also don’t view mobile gaming as being on the same level as console or PC.

Except nobody is saying people never hack things to get access to premium stuff. I'm saying that playing hacked versions of the game with infinite resources and whatnot is also hacking and can be benign

You can call it whatever you like, but it doesn't change that it's the same thing, simply used for different reasons

And this is where word choice comes into play. Hacked means a specific thing and you’re using it to mean three very different things. Yes, there’s a difference between hacking, modding, and using console commands. And the use of cheat codes literally means hacking. It doesn’t mean modding, it doesn’t mean using console commands.
So no, you don’t agree with me. Because there is nothing wrong with console commands. There is nothing wrong with mods. There is something wrong with hacking. And if OP meant cheat codes as shorthand for hacking, which seems most likely because the original form of cheat codes doesn’t exist anymore, then I disagree with them.

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