[ SECRET POST #6438 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6438 ⌋

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[Takehito Koyasu (voice actor)]



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[sailor moon, ouran high-school club]



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Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. Also, I think Henry would've been a lot more paranoid and sensitive in a choppy-choppy-time kind of way at the merest hint of infidelity and being fooled into recognizing a child who wasn't actually his.

SA, hit post too soon

[(Anonymous)]

Also, Henry was never a warrior king the way Robert Baratheon was, though he might've cherished such hopes and liked the idea of people thinking of him as one. But then, GRRM was cherry-picking a lot of stuff from history when he created his characters. I know a little bit about English history, so it's fun to see the similarities and differences between real life and GoT.

I think most people just compare the two because they got heavier as they got older, which is silly but there you go.

[(Anonymous)]

Well so, first of all, ASOIAF is a pastiche of English history. This is how pastiches generally work: you chop and combine things. It's collapsing a century or two of English history into the space of 2 or 3 generations. It's not gonna be a one-to-one comparison.

Two, Robert is as much Edward IV as Henry VIII, and Edward IV's reign was significantly influenced by magnates and great lords with similar stature and status as Tywin. And three, IMO, the reason that Henry's reign was not influenced by magnates and great lords to the same degree isn't primarily because of Henry's strength of character or iron will or anything; it's because Henry Tudor his father had spent his entire reign pursuing policies of centralization and strengthening the crown, and was very successful in pursuing those policies.

[(Anonymous)]

+1, Henry VIII's reign was unusually free of negotiations with other important lords because Henry VII (and his extremely tenuous claim to the throne) spent a lot of effort bringing them to heel after the War of the Roses, particularly in financial terms. Robert having to deal with Tywin and the others was much more typical of an English king!

[sparklywalls]

Great point about Edward IV who did like a party/liked to eat and wasn’t known for staying faithful to his wife (also it was claimed he was promised to another but that’s more the opposite of ASOIAF because the one Robert wanted more is the one who got away.) Edward was possibly killed by a chill rather than a boar though so there’s that.

It’s like how Cersei is probably influenced by quite a few medieval or later Queen consorts because she doesn’t go one to one over Elizabeth Woodville or any of Henry VIII’s wives.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, Bobby B is almost who Henry 8 wishes he were: warrior king, no daddy issues, two healthy sons, etc. And I kind of love that.

[(Anonymous)]

Interestingly, George R. R. Martin's actual Henry VIII reference was Aegon IV.

[(Anonymous)]

Hmmm. I guess I could kind of see it, again with a focus on the weight gain. Henry VIII wasn't that much of a unrepentant horndog, however. And I don't think he would've gone so far as to legitimize his bastards, though there were rumors of him considering it re: Henry Fitzroy, his son by Elizabeth Blount.

[meadowphoenix]

i agree that henry viii probably isn't the right comparison. if for nothing else that henry viii actually liked ruling and tywin's power in robert's court is from both his "competent" rule and his money because robert doesn't actually want to deal with either, which was not quite the situation for henry viii.

eta: that said, if henry needed the money and hadn't already committed to killing people by starting a religious war, and had two sons, and was dealing with the legacy of a cruel king who already made some buckwild killing decisions, he would absolutely have put up with tywin's shit