[ SECRET POST #6442 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6442 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. I think she's emblematic of the whole stupid both-sides-ism. She's the leftist counterpart to the nazi child masturbating in the bathroom, and as such she has to have done something wrong since Both Sides! But in actual fact, she was pressured by her family to try and convince Marta, felt bad about it and immediately apologized when she next saw her. She was the only one left in that family worth anything.

[(Anonymous)]

I saw her as emblematic of the belief that people who are outgoing about social justice are always secretly hypocrites who only want to make themselves look good and never actually cared about social justice.

Even if she's not meant to be that and we're supposed to find her sympathetic (it's ambiguous whether Marta would end up helping her or not and there are clues that point to both possibilities) I think most viewers ended up with the former impression of her.

[(Anonymous)]

DA - first paragraph was spot on for my impression of her.

But now I want to go and rewatch to see with new perspective if I end up with the same take away.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT My read on her character was that she's the kind of person who supports social justice only up to the point where she has to materially give up some privileges. Which describes a lot of people on the mid-to-left side of the spectrum regardless of the finer points of their beliefs.

[(Anonymous)]

That's the rest of the family; they talked and talked about supporting Marta and that she was one of the family, until she got all their money. For Meg, it doesn't fit with the scene where she makes the phone call and the camera pans over to her entire family monitoring her. It made it obvious that what she was saying wasn't what she actually wanted. That was the only scene where she did anything against Marta, and it was under duress.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean... it was under pressure, but it wasn't under duress. She could have told her family to fuck off.

She's still easily the least bad of the family members and her doing that is much, much less bad than what any of the other ones did. It's a very mildly shitty and relatively forgivable thing and I don't think that we're supposed to hate her, but I do think that her willingness to go along with her family's BS towards Marta is supposed to be a black mark on her character to at least some degree.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, cause teenagers/college students who are good people always make good decisions under pressure and never cave to anything...

[(Anonymous)]

I mean like. Yes, there are reasons that it would have been extremely hard for her to do the right thing. But also, she still failed to do the right thing. I feel like I am extending her character an appropriate amount of understanding for the context, and I'm not saying it's unrealistic writing.

Like. In general, I don't get this approach to morality. It's understandable why she made the choice she did, and many other people would have made the same choice. It's still clearly the wrong choice - it's the wrong choice in the story's universe, and it would be the wrong choice in real life.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

A lot of people (including Rian Johnson, probably) think she could have just lied or kept quiet about Marta being undocumented with zero consequences other than not getting the inheritance. What they are lucky not to know is that a lot of parents when they raise you will teach you that you cannot lie or keep secrets from them, because they WILL find out eventually and God help you when they do.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes because God forbid a leftist can actually also be an asshole hypocrite who does wrong shit. Couldn't happen. Shouldn't ever be portrayed that way in media. Because leftists are flawless saints who can do no wrong.

Like, fuck, I'm a leftist myself but this whole "it's badwrong to portray leftists as even slightly bad and the only reason someone does it is to push a badwrong both sides narrative" thing is such sanctimonious hypocrisy it's not even funny anymore.