[ SECRET POST #6449 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6449 ⌋

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[Ciconia: When They Cry]



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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I hear something along these lines pretty often, what is it about the Rogue class which seems to attract drama queens? I would have thought they'd go for Barbarians instead.

[(Anonymous)]

Nah, barbarians attract people who don't mind playing a "dumb" or "uncivilized" character compared to the rest of the setting. Rogues meanwhile attract people who want to play a character that's in theory smarter and more cunning than others with a built in reason to act selfish if they want.

Obviously not all rogue players are drama queens, but drama queens and the "excuse me ma'am i am a sigma male" types tend to like the latter thing.

[(Anonymous)]

Whereas I have never encountered this at all. The most disruptive players I've known all tend to multiclass and make weird bespoke characters.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I don't disbelieve you. Plenty of different kinds of drama players out there.

"Chaotic Neutral Rogue" is a dnd player stereotype for a reason, though. You'll find lots of DMs are wary of it.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah.

(Some) people (who are bad at roleplaying) play rogues because they want to PvP the rest of the party. Just like some people play bards because they want to role to fuck every opposite-gender NPC they see, or play wizards because they want to be officially smarter than the rest of the party, or play paladins because they want to roleplay their character being a huge smug asshole to the rest of the party.

[(Anonymous)]

The common thread there is character/player separation.

With enough character/player separation, and the players willing to laugh at them, some snotty pseudointellectual wizard traveling with an incredibly gullible paladin who is supremely sure in incredibly wrong things and a rogue who is wondering how she got surrounded by idiots and trying to shove them off on someone else unsuccessfully at every turn could be total comedy gold.

Without character/player separation though, you just get self-insert player drama.

[(Anonymous)]

Right, ultimately it's basically about having out-of-character conversations to make sure everyone is on the same page tonally and so on.

[(Anonymous)]

DA same. I know it is the stereotype amd I'm sure it is out there, but I just haven't encountered it.

[(Anonymous)]

Idk. I’ve been playing rogues for a long time, and one thing I’m really enjoying in 5e is that I can actually kill bad guys. But I want a collaborative game with the other players, and I play for that — everybody contributes, some contribute more at specific points, and we’re all there to have fun.

Isn’t that how everyone plays, or have I just been really lucky for 35 years?

[(Anonymous)]

damn lucky I'd say. I don't game but I have tons of friends both online and irl who do so I've heard every horror story about table manners, and it really does seem like 80-90 percent of game groups fall into the same tropes, the same lack of IC/OOC divide, and feed the stereotypes to a T. be grateful for your luck!

[(Anonymous)]

Ayrt—got it, I will be deeply grateful for my luck!

[(Anonymous)]

It's baffling to me, as someone who almost always plays a rogue. I wouldn't BE there if I didn't want to be part of a group? Same for my adventurer?? My favorite experiences have been with rogues who were *socially motivated*-- one was a grieving widower who bonded with the party's stoic barbarian, and even though that was YEARS ago, I still remember the emotional impact her death then had on him, and her player's reaction to how it hit him! My most recent rogue essentially adopted a fellow adventurer, viewing him as an unprepared kid with a sword, and had the experience of having his desire to be cautious or self-serving in various situations tempered by the desire to protect someone just starting out as an adventurer, wanting to keep him alive long enough to learn some caution of his own.

There are so many great moments with friends I just... wouldn't HAVE, if I played lone wolf asshole rogues, and none of my characters would have enough depth to be memorable to me.