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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-09-09 05:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #6457 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6457 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2024-09-09 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
At least when it comes to the US, I don't think that will ever happen. Sadly, because I'm right there with you OP.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2024-09-09 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
SAME.
I don't mind if the military types are good or even 'heroic' in some ways (see - Aliens, for an example), but all that 'American Exceptionalism' and colonizer bullshite that's inevitably a part of most modern military/military adjacent stories is nauseating.

And, in the same vein...can we NOT have any more wallowing in the 9/11 'tragedy' please? Enough.

Edited because - yes, 9/11 was awful and tragic and sucked, but the 'hoo-rah! 'Murica!!' shite that's grown out of it all is just too fucking much.
Edited 2024-09-09 22:34 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2024-09-09 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Doubt that will happen. Hollywood gets a lot of funding from the US military.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-10 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
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(Anonymous) 2024-09-10 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a vet, and most military-related content since 9-11 is just straight trash to me.

The only thing that's enjoyable are stories that contain people that just happen to be in the military/a military setting but are really about other themes. Sergeant Bilko is fucking hilarious.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-10 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
They do that for the funding, OP.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-10 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
This is something fandom is going to have to step up and include in its creative works, if we're going to have it, I think. Because the less popular the enforcement arm of the US government gets, the harder it clings to trying to indoctrinate people with sheer make-believe.
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[personal profile] ariakas 2024-09-10 01:11 pm (UTC)(link)
May I recommend Barry? It is recent, high quality, and is ruthlessly critical not only of veterans specifically but of the US military/military culture in general.

Idk this is a weird one for me because "corrupt/violent soldier or vet" is so common in the media I consume it's basically its own trope, so this might come down to the kinds of things you yourself seek out. (A while back a friend of mine was talking about the censorship during the Iraq war and how no one could bring up the lack of WMDs/criticize the pretext for war as false in the US media... except Green Zone, a literal Hollywood blockbuster starring Matt Damon, did exactly that back then - only she hadn't seen it because she "doesn't watch war films". Well, no shit then lmao.) Generation Kill came out in the literal 00s and was also relentlessly critical of both soldiers and US military culture and its war aims. Modern Warfare of the same vintage presents the US military as chillingly indifferent to the destruction and terror they cause and also prone to acting on bad intelligence.

But you're never going to find this if what you watch is, say, superhero films/shows, as their whole philosophy and themes are directly opposed to criticisms of institutionalized violence - they are celebrations of this. Or if what you watch are true crime serial dramas, for the same reasons. Ditto shows about "special" people who are "heroic" through violence. Generic pop dramas and sitcoms won't take it on because it's too controversial. If this is what you consume, you're never going to get what you want. You're trying to suckle milk out of a frog.

OTOH, if you want anti-military themes, pretty much anything leftist will give you what you want from the obligatory military character(s), pretty much guaranteed, even if it's pro-cop (e.g. Disco Elysium).