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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-09-11 05:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #6459 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6459 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2024-09-11 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I have always agreed with this, yeah. It's a very real portrayal of grief and the emptiness you feel when all you knew is just... suddenly over. Not to mention the loss of Aerith is something he has no idea how to cope with. That kind of self-blame and isolation is so common with grief.

I actually really love Advent Children, messy as it is.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-11 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Geostigma is also fatal at that point. No cure. He was dying and he knew it. He had very few reasons to NOT be depressed, tbh.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-11 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean

He's also terminally ill at that point.

There WAS no cure for Geostigma at that point in time, and he just didn't want them all to watch him waste away. This is pretty much textually SAID by him, and yet people miss it. He was someone they all looked up to, but the illness was slowly robbing him of that strength and hollowing him into a weakened, withered shell. Nevermind that we saw in Complete that some people had the fucking stigma marks explode into gunk a they died.

People who ignore the "he is literally fucking dying at that point in time" really burn my biscuits!!! It's a major facet of his depression!!!!

(Anonymous) 2024-09-12 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
It's honestly impressive he could pull himself together enough to run a business in the state he was in mentally. With everything he'd endured, he had every reason to be a mess.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-11 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I have been saying this FOR YEARS.

He was subjected to EXTREME mako poisoning for four years and experimented on for who knows what. He lost his best friend right as he came out of a mako coma and assimilated his personality. Aerith's loss hit him where it hurt. He lost his mom in the Nibelheim disaster. Cloud lost everything that mattered to him and once Sephiroth was defeated life kinda lost meaning.

It's only during the events of Advent Children that he pulls himself back together for the sake of his friends and budding family, and his journey is a HUGE metaphor for how Nojima lost his mother while they were developing VII.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-12 07:02 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, is it time for us to start screaming about how stupid the Emo Anime Boy stereotype is already?

Cloud was literally tortured for years, watched basically everything and everyone he ever cared for burn at the hands of a man he idolized, and had his best friend die in his arms. And that's before the game even starts. The narrative of the game is specifically about breaking down Cloud's self image and view of masculinity, with the accuracy of a scalpel and the force of a sledgehammer. By the time of Advent Children, he's dying of a terminal illness, supporting a family, and finally dealing with his grief for those he's lost.

(And while I'm ranting, Squall Leonhart was a 17 year old with a non-traumatic brain injury and untreated depression, being expected to deal with situations that even the adults in his life were woefully unequipped to handle.)

(Anonymous) 2024-09-12 10:50 am (UTC)(link)
Like, everyone from the main cast in FFVIII was a literal CHILD SOLDIER (except Rinoa and she had her own set of issues).

AYRT

(Anonymous) 2024-09-13 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I'd say she counts too. She just didn't go to a fancy school to become a professional child soldier. She just did it the old fashioned way by becoming a freedom fighter and hiring mercenaries on her own.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-12 10:52 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like the same people whining about Cloud's character development in AC also bitch about how much of a whiny brat Shinji is.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-12 12:49 pm (UTC)(link)
SO MUCH this. How dare characters have realistic responses to trauma, or something.