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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-09-18 06:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #6466 ]


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(Anonymous) 2024-09-18 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
UM.

As someone who was there in the 80s, Baywatch's existence has zero to do with any beach episode of any series ever. If anything it owes its inspiration to Miami Vice, which was "MTV COPS" written on a napkin.

[personal profile] hey_hey_hey 2024-09-18 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Um, "MTV COPS" was Cop Rock.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-18 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I am so angry Cop Rock never took off.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-18 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, excellent reference, but if you haven't actually heard the anecodote that one of the producers wrote "Mtv cops" on a napkin while brainstorming at dinner and Miami Vice was born...

(Anonymous) 2024-09-18 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Magnum PI would like a word.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-19 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
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Dumbass.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-19 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Ummmmmmmmmm, okay.
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[personal profile] starfleetbrat 2024-09-18 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a new beach rescue show coming out next week.

Rescue: HI-Surf

Set in Hawaii. I believe its on FOX in the US.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-18 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
You really never heard of any American show set on a beach before Baywatch? They go back to at least the 60s…

(Anonymous) 2024-09-19 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
Gilligan's Island invented beach episodes

(Anonymous) 2024-09-19 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Pride and Prejudice would totallybe better without the forced misunderstandings. /s

(Anonymous) 2024-09-19 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
oops, misfire, should be 3!

(Anonymous) 2024-09-19 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
I think the difference is that the misunderstandings in Pride and Prejudice are informed by the restrictive class-based social etiquette, and feel organic as a result.

Forced misunderstandings in a lot of modern romances have no broader underpinning, and tend not to make a whole lot of social sense. They aren't understandable, and so they don't feel real; they just feel contrived, or as if the characters are very stupid.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-19 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt but I agree. I don't think P&P feels forced. You can understand why Darcy does not want to announce what a cad Wickham is for the attempted seduction of Darcy's own sister, because Darcy doesn't want his sister's reputation to be ruined, along with her chance at a good marriage. There's also the remaining debt he might feel to Wickham's father, who was a loyal family steward. You can also understand why Darcy's aloof, proud behavior (and his snide remark about Elizabeth's looks) gave her a really bad first impression of him, and nothing he did soon after contradicted that. Meanwhile, Wickham was, like a lot of asshole womanizers, very charming and seemed like an amiable, cheerful man who was, you know, willing to be NICE to people he'd just met. Unlike Darcy.

Don't get me wrong, a lot of romances do have forced misunderstandings, where you feel like this is something people could easily get over if they just TALKED to one another, or if they weren't terminally stupid. Real, understandable misunderstandings are hard to write, though. Most authors can't manage it, so that's why you have people suddenly being conveniently dumb, making incredibly asinine mistakes, saying asinine things, etc. etc.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-19 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
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But I'd think anyone who's been in relationships of their own with people they love and respect has a lot of experience with understandable conflicts, hurt feelings, misunderstandings, and having to work them out. People can value different things. People's sense of what's likely to happen and needs to be taken into account can be coming from past experiences that are drastically different. Or from trusting sources of information that are incompatible (including other people). People can realistically let fear get the better of them, and then want a course of action that shortchanges one important value because they think only that course of action will adequately safeguard what they think is threatened. People can say things with directness and vehemence, and the other person thinks they meant something that they didn't actually say. If writers were drawing more from their lives, I think all of this would be considerably less "hard to write." It does not need to be invented. It might ring a lot truer if it wasn't.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2024-09-19 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
if the "beach" episode is meant to round out the setting, characters and worldbuilding, then yes, they're good.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-19 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
This is a sad day for F!S.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-19 02:11 am (UTC)(link)

My gods, a person likes beach things! This signals the end for the comm!

(Anonymous) 2024-09-19 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
Comment OP
I was griping more about Baywatch.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-19 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
Literally the only thing I remember about Baywatch existing was that it sounded really stupid, so you are not alone, anon.

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(Anonymous) 2024-09-19 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
I love beach episodes.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-19 05:44 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, the US only learned about having the beach on TV in 1989, there was never anything on US TV that ever went there before that. Gillian's Island and Hawaii Five-O (1968) didn't feature beaches prominently. And I must have dreamt up the episodes on the beach in Batman (1966), The Brady Bunch, The Monkees, Happy Days, and Growing Pains.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-19 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
Batman on the beach sounds like a fucking disaster, but considering which Batman ... that sounds like it probably also featured supervillains in ridiculous swimming costumes.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-19 09:41 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Here's a pic of Joker in trunks (over his costume) from the episode Surf's Up! Joker's Under!: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0519503/mediaviewer/rm1209923329/

And here's a pic of Batman in trunks (and the Batsuit):
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0519503/mediaviewer/rm613491969/

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