[ SECRET POST #6470 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6470 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

If women are asked to examine why they like m/m, gay men should examine why they think women writing m/m is inherently fetishistic and wrong. I think if they come to the right conclusion, the answer for most of them will be that they just don't like women so the thought of their experiences occupying women's cootie-riddled brains disgusts them. And the answer to that is that you feeling disgust at something doesn't make the thing morally wrong, which is something any queer person should understand as connected to our history.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, the overwhelming majority of men like this make no bones about the fact that they don't like women. (Which is funny, or perhaps predictable, predicated on the fact that most of them are ex-women.)

[(Anonymous)]

I know you're shitstirring, but this is so hilariously wrong anyone can tell just from observation. Trans gay men are overwhelmingly supportive of women. Almost every gay man who gatekeeps women from m/m is cis.

[(Anonymous)]

This is, like, 25% my experience. Older gay trans guys, yes, are generally chill with female-written M/M and rally behind the fujo flag. Younger ones (the ones likeliest to be perceived as "fujos" themselves, igss) are the loudest and most strident about not wanting women in "their" spaces. (Women DNI.) And cis gay guys, in aggregate, mostly just do not fw female-frequented fic fandom spaces.

[ariakas]

Eh, ime both of these are true: in aggregate, trans gay men are overwhelmingly supportive of women in m/m, and some of the most vehement gatekeepers of m/m fiction are trans gay men (or androphilic afab nonbinary people - actually, tbh, this latter group is probably the majority/most vehement in my experience, so maybe saying "trans gay men" isn't quite fair). In my experience, most cis gay men just don't give a damn about m/m erotica in the style of yaoi/BL/slash; they have a shitton of romance/erotica/pornography by-and-for themselves and if they want more, they'll make more. They don't need to police a subgenre most of them don't even consume. And the few who do read it love it just the way it is.

[scissorsevered]

I've always explained why I (cishet woman) like yaoi by saying this: "I'm attracted to men. I like seeing men in sexual situations. Even better if there are several men."

That's it.

Same could be said about why some straight men like lesbian porn.