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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-09-28 01:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #6476 ]


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[personal profile] philstar22 2024-09-28 06:41 pm (UTC)(link)
The thing is, making fictional cops awesome people, or flawed people whose flaws aren't called out even though they are exactly what real cops do that is bad (like attacking suspects for example) is a problem. It is part of the normalizing of bad cop behavior generally as a society.

That being said, I do sometimes like cop shows, and I don't think that is wrong. But I also don't think it is wrong to call out how our media in general romanticizes cops and helps the whitewashing of how bad they actually are in real life.

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(Anonymous) 2024-09-28 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
the commenter below summed it up refectly - it feels performative in fandom. we're already 80% women and leftists in here, we know ACAB. there's no need to include fictional characters in that imo.
copaganda is real, but if most of the people liking cop chars are already aware of that, what's the point? it's annoying.

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(Anonymous) 2024-09-29 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but speaking as a white woman it took me a long time to really understand the scope of ACAB, even though I am also a leftist. I agree that people giving "friendly reminders" on fic does nothing, but I absolutely wouldn't assume that women and leftists are actually aware of ACAB.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-29 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's fair to say it's bad if it's something made before 2010 or so. ACAB and knowledge of the corruption in the police system wasn't something you could just expect people to know about. Especially if it's just a plot about say, the main character's house getting robbed. It would be nonsense for them not to call the police at all, and it would obstruct the plot to have the cop whose role is just a plot device who shows up to get evidence on the crime scene be a dick about Black people or something.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2024-09-29 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Oh I agree. And I don't think even watching modern cop shows is wrong. I just think there should be a general acknowledgment that there is purposeful whitewashing going on. Some shows are worse than others (I refuse to watch Blue Bloods for this reason among others). But it does exist. Doesn't make watching the shows personally bad.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-29 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
>I don't think it's fair to say it's bad if it's something made before 2010 or so. ACAB and knowledge of the corruption in the police system wasn't something you could just expect people to know about.

I highly disagree. Pre-2010 I've grown up with POC and lower class people who absolutely had criticisms of the police system and even my boomer parents talked about "crooked cops" and "pigs". Just because ACAB wasn't mainstream in your bubble doesn't mean this was always a large political topic.