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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-09-28 01:55 pm

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(Anonymous) 2024-09-28 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I have watched and currently watch shows with cops as main characters depicted as the 'good guys' in them and I do often root for them in the show. However, I am struggling to think of one show where a 'good guy' cop hasn't done something legally or morally questionable while on the job. And I gotta say, since the audience is supposed to be rooting for them and they very often get away with little to no consequences for doing things that are flat out wrong, I can kind of see why there are people that want to call out every fictional cop.

You're right, it is copaganda and it seems it might have worked on you. Are they really good people if they use their jobs as a means to harass, threaten, intimidate, and/or traumatize suspects and witnesses? Are they really good people when they violate others' rights and the law to catch someone? And even if you conclude that they still are good people, those things would, in my eyes, make for bad cops.

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(Anonymous) 2024-09-28 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
>I am struggling to think of one show where a 'good guy' cop hasn't done something legally or morally questionable while on the job

I will give the two examples from the top of my head, only one of them is my fandom lol:
Resident Evil
Haikyuu!!

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(Anonymous) 2024-09-28 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Transformers Rescue Bots, if you must ♥
PS there is a LOT of media with good cops FYI

(Anonymous) 2024-09-29 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
aMe too - though tbf I don't know either of the fandom other anon mentioned (haikyuu is about cops??? I thought it was sports manga...)

I've liked quite a bit of media about cops but I can't think of any of them who haven't done something illegal, immoral, downright evil, or just very asshole-y on the job. Even Andy Griffith! A lot of times the media frame it so it's absolutely justified or it is the "good guy" thing to do... but if you try to look at it outside that lens they're absolute bastards. Yeah, you shot that guy you knew for a fact was going to firebomb a schoolbus full of nuns and there was absolutely no other way to stop him... but in the real world you don't have writers setting you up so that you were 100% sure he was actually going to do it and there was 100% no other way out, in the real world you just shot a guy based on suspicion and pretty flimsy evidence and then you had to be a person who could live with that.

It's a combination of that kind of thing being totally normalized, and that our stories just aren't ready for cops who mostly spend their days doing incredibly boring but emotionally draining shit... and that part of a job of a cop is to be a bastard. Like that's what cops, even in an ideal world, are for: they're meant to specialize in intervening in situations where you need someone on your side who knows how to be a bastard in safe and useful way. Even a "good cop" is going to spend a lot of time doing things like forcibly objecting a vulnerable person having an emotional crisis from a store because they wouldn't stop screaming profanities and threats of violence at the staff, and you've gotta be a little bit of a bastard to tell a person having the worst day of their life that they're now banned from the coffeeshop and you'll arrest them if they try to go back in.

Like, saying "ACAB" in every comment section is pointless wankery, but also, any cop media where the "good cops" aren't bastards and won't willingly admit they're bastards is either lying or doesn't know shit about cops.

(Anonymous) 2024-09-29 11:32 am (UTC)(link)
Flashpoint was deliberately written with the cop characters as good people trying to do the right thing. Copaganda for sure but I did appreciate the effort to show characters trying to figure out the right thing and do it.