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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-10-04 07:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #6482 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6482 ⌋

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philstar22: (Default)

Re: Kind of based on 3 also

[personal profile] philstar22 2024-10-05 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Basically any character who is frequently portrayed as the sub in a popular ship will be drawn regularly as much smaller than they usually are.

Re: Kind of based on 3 also

(Anonymous) 2024-10-05 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
That's a given, and doms in popular ships get drawn regularly as bigger than they are, but are there characters that are just-as-commonly made super masc buff and also super femme instead of largely one way or the other, a la Link?
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Re: Kind of based on 3 also

[personal profile] philstar22 2024-10-05 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
Some characters get drawn both ways, depending on which way they are being viewed. Dean Winchester is one that ends up both smaller and bigger, depending on the role the artist sees him in.

Re: Kind of based on 3 also

(Anonymous) 2024-10-05 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Is it like "buffer dude" vs "twink" different, or "giant muscle guy" vs "crossdressing femboy" different?

Sorry for all the questions! Not in the fandom, looking for dichotomies to show someone else as examples.
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Re: Kind of based on 3 also

[personal profile] philstar22 2024-10-05 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
Personally I've seen all of the above. More often the former, but definitely the latter exists quite a bit too.

Re: Kind of based on 3 also

(Anonymous) 2024-10-05 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks! I'm gonna go take a look. :D
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Re: Kind of based on 3 also

[personal profile] ariakas 2024-10-05 11:14 am (UTC)(link)
Height's such a weird one, ime people are willing to break just about every other yaoi "rule" but the height rule just won't budge; either the taller one tops automatically regardless of their interpersonal dynamic, or like you said, mysteriously shrinks to just slightly shorter than the character imagined as top.

It also happens to female characters whether they're being shipped or not: in my old main game fandom there's one main female character, who is inarguably per multiple scenes as tall as or taller than some male members of the cast who magically shrinks to a head shorter than all of them in fanart (especially Japanese fanart, for some reason) including by yaoi artists.

I think there's some lizard brain thing going on: mentally we think "women short" because they are shorter, on average, but they're only 5" shorter on average, or up to the top of the "average" man's nose, yet in art they're they end up like four feet goddamn tall. Or take artistic representations of teenagers - I was rewatching Yami no Matsuei the other day and the main 17-year-old boys have the same height difference with the adult men that an 11-year-old would: the men are head and shoulders taller, but irl, 17-year-old boys are post-puberty and 1-2" off their adult height, if not their full adult height already.

So since exaggerated smallness is a mental shortcut to youthfulness and femininity, we map it onto the uke to signify those traits.

Maybe I'm just stating the obvious, but as a tall afab person I've always had to give my head a shake at how tall women in media get portrayed as way, way shorter than they are in fanworks - especially romantic fanworks - and can't help but see the commonality with fanon bottoms.