[ SECRET POST #6488 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6488 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

So, one, I don't think it's right to say that systematic racism is the crux of the issue with policing (assuming we're speaking about America here). Systematic racism is one issue; the other issue is that police culture and the police as an institution are just fundamentally broken in ways that have nothing to do with racism. Policing culture is abusive, police are corrupt, and police are not subject to any meaningful civilian control.

Two, I do think it's fair to say that there are issues with the ways that progressive reformers talk about changes to the police as an institution. But I think the use of the phrase "ACAB" is not a major problem in that respect. The only real problem I have with it is that people use it in a reflexive, callow way sometimes - but the underlying point that the problems with police culture are absolutely pervasive and extend to police in general as an institution is basically true. And that's the thing that people should take away from the slogan, I think: that the problem with police is not a result of individual police officers being bad, but with the whole structure and institution. I have a much bigger issue with the use of "defund", frankly.

[(Anonymous)]

A big part of ACAB is also the straight line between policing and the USA's truly abominable prison system. Even "good" cops who aren't corrupt, try to resist the (deeply entrenched) police culture of dehumanizing wide classes of people as the enemy instead of the public, want to do their jobs and are kind people in their personal lives...have dedicated themselves to a system in which them are obligated to uphold the US Prison System and feed lives into it according to arbitrary and draconian sentencing. The US Prison system absolutely destroys lives and communities and is the last bastion of legal slavery. That's not hyperbole, that's literally the law.

All Cops are obligated and hugely incentivized to send people into that system regardless of the morality or proportionality of the laws broken - minor marijuana possession, a sodomy charge before 2003, a homeless person urinating in public. And they generally cope with this by embracing that corrupted police culture. "Well, they broke the law, so they pay the price." Their own morals don't matter: they enforce the law. And the law is in many places and many ways deeply cruel. Even if cops don't want to be cruel, in upholding the law, which is their duty, they enact cruelty.

That's why All Cops Are Bastards. And yes, prison reform and legal reform are necessary components that individual cops can't accomplish by themselves, but as AIRT points out, that profession is a CHOICE.

I do think ACAB is overused and can make people defensive, but there's absolutely utility in breaking down the sheltered liberal idea that "nice cops" are the same as "good cops" - that being friendly or reasonable somehow exempts or absolves them from their active and important role in that system.