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⌈ Secret Post #6489 ⌋

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I think finding out just how *many* self-absorbed, negligent assholes were out there during the pandemic didn't do favors to the mental/emotional health of a lot of people.

I think it was more the apocalyptic tone of everything, particularly given that those awful, selfish people were largely right, i.e. masking and lockdowns didn't do shit. The single best thing you can do to protect yourself from COVID is to wash your hands regularly.

That's not true - masking and lockdowns delayed the infections so the healthcare system didn't collapse. And getting vaccines so quickly was goddamn amazing. I worked in person in healthcare all through and it could have been so much worse.

That isn't what the research says about masking and lockdowns at all. The evidence for their effectiveness is negligible at best.

Getting vaccines quickly was definitely amazing, though.

Don't mention research without providing a source.

Many countries had a lot less deaths, and were able to return to "mostly normal" in a shorter amount of time thanks to effective lockdowns and mask mandates. Deaths percentage wise, also, not just numbers.

+1000

You'll have to provide "the research" there, champ. Lockdowns absolutely worked, provided they were actually enforced, we had whole provinces not have major outbreaks for years because of them, the outbreaks (naturally) happened the moment they were relaxed; the problem with "masking" is that 1) people weren't told to wear masks that actually did anything (i.e., fit-tested N95s), but instead wear a cloth feel-good totem long after research had indicated that COVID-19 was airborne, not droplet, transmitted, because CDC recommendations kept making compromises to industry.

Yes, that's the key word - enforced.

A lot of idiots just assumed "it's just like the flu" (IOW, they didn't take the flu seriously either) and decided to go on spring vacation when the outbreak was fresh. Oh, and in the US, they went to red states, where transmission levels tended to be higher (because MUH FREEDUMBS). And even after businesses shut down or limited their hours, the idiots were STILL having unmasked get-togethers at their own residences, regardless of their health, and spreading shit like plague rats.

And some businesses only did the bare minimum because they would be shut down otherwise. The moment lockdown was lifted (IMO, was a little early), there were businesses in my area who were like "fuck masks, and if you don't like it, fuck you, don't come to our restaurant and HOW DARE YOU COMPLAIN." The fact they were able to stay in business is really disappointing and only shows how much people value their own free dumbs over not killing someone else's grandma.

Sorry, I'm still fucking mad at America (even though there are plenty like me who followed guidelines to the best of their ability). I know that's my problem to get over.

Yeah the "masking and lockdowns do nothing" crowd does not like to admit that it's half-assed, unenforced lockdowns that do nothing, and shitty paper and cloth masks meant for droplet illnesses being used for an airborne virus that do nothing. And then spread long-debunked misinfo like handwashing as if we were still laboring under the delusion that covid was fomite-spread in any meaningful way.

To be fair to the US, up here we also had the asinine "Freedom Convoy" of fake truckers, and huge conspiracy disinfo movement that lead to things like the CBC interviewing an antivaxxer next to his dying, pregnant wife who still blamed the government for not "making them believe" that COVID was real until he lost his wife and future kid from it.

And to be fair to the conspiracy types, we did know many of the announced public health measures were wrong/ineffective, very early on in the pandemic - only in the opposite way of what these people were suggesting. The CDC being in denial about airborne transmission for the first two years cost tens of thousands of lives and likely injured or sickened millions. And not for the 15-minute cities or great reset or whatever we're calling antisemitic paranoia these days, but for the corporate interests/profits/"business as usual".

There's also Sweden where the government knowingly spread misinformation about childrens' covid susceptibility to get kids back in school to stop "burdening" their parents with childcare and had deaths massively in excess of the other Nordic countries as a result (https://time.com/5899432/sweden-coronovirus-disaster/).

Sadly, they're right that the government lied to them, but not in the way they think they are.

This is an insane statement. The "wash hands" thing is and always was cope/industry productivity compromise, because it's easy to do and doesn't require workplaces to install costly ventilation or filters. Fomite transmission of COVID-19 is negligible (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35512326/). COVID-19 is an airborne disease, and this was unfortunately known months into the pandemic but was ignored because it was too costly/too disruptive to treat it that way, so politically-compromised public health organizations kept communicating that it was droplet-transmitted and kept telling people to take droplet precautions long after research conclusively determined otherwise (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36763042/).

The two things you can do to protect yourself and others is are 1) wear a fit-tested N95 in high risk situations (e.g., large indoor gatherings with minimal ventilation), and 2) stay home when sick.

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