[ SECRET POST #6491 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6491 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

I don't think that's necessarily true, especially if the OP in question has read both authors extensively.

Like if two musicians you're familiar with who usually write music that's pretty different in tone happen to collab and release a song, do you find it impossible to determine whose influence went where in the final product? If you have absolutely no idea, I think that's more unusual than usual.

[(Anonymous)]

IDK if it's necessarily true in all collaborations - actually, I think there are probably plenty of collaborations where you can tell who wrote what.

But I do think it's true for Good Omens and I've read a lot of both Pratchett and Gaiman.

[(Anonymous)]

"I can't tell, so definitely nobody else can tell, it cannot possibly be just me" isn't really a good argument, gotta say. I'm not even speaking for myself here, seems like lots of people in this thread can tell?

[(Anonymous)]

Yep. Pratchett in particular has a very distinctive style, and makes very easy to spot narrative choices. If you're familiar with his work, it's not hard to spot elsewhere.

But IME, not everyone's good at picking up on this stuff, so I can see why someone who isn't might sincerely believe that oh no, figuring it out just isn't possible for anyone. I mean. There are people who can't taste the difference between regular vs. Diet Coke, but to others, it's obvious.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean yeah, but is the person who can't taste the difference between regular and Diet Coke, posting that it's impossible in a thread where multiple other people have stated they can tell, informing them that they're all wrong? lol

It's one thing to say "I can't tell" and another to tell other people who have stated they can tell, that they cannot since you know better.

[(Anonymous)]

But there are also all kinds of things where people think they can tell the difference, and really can't! It's entirely plausible that you can think that the difference is obvious and still be wrong about it.

With Coke and Diet Coke, or Coke and Pepsi, or red wine and white wine, or whatever, we can do blindfold taste tests at least to sort out who can actually distinguish the taste and who can't. We can't do that in this case, though, because we do not actually know the underlying facts of who wrote what so we have nothing to compare against. So it's a terrible analogy.

[(Anonymous)]

Some people can tell the difference, some people can't. That makes it a pretty good analogy, IMO. I'll grant you there's no way to test it in this specific case, but it's not that far-fetched to say that some people might be able to tell.

For the record, *I* can always tell the difference between regular and diet pop because artificial sweeteners taste very saccharine and like chemicals to me. I can also taste alcohol even in fruity cocktails, while many profess that they can't tell. I won't claim this is a common ability, but it exists.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not impossible that some people might be able to tell.

But just because it seems obvious to you, that doesn't actually mean that you are in fact able to tell. Which is the logic that people are using here - "it seems obvious to me, therefore it IS obvious." That's not how it works!

[meadowphoenix]

I'm with you anon. There's a lot of fallacious logic going on here. Even if we could be certain that you could tell the distinct styles from one another (questionable! and something human beings are actually very bad at knowing about themselves!), that's not actually proof of who wrote it. The idea that they could not possibly have adopted the style of other for a part of the book is odd.

[(Anonymous)]

da and yeah, exactly. I'm a fan translator who sometimes collabs with a friend of mine for translations, and when we do that we purposefully try to sync our styles so that you can't tell that different parts were done by two different translators because we want it to be seamless. Like, that's the whole point.

[(Anonymous)]

I am not bad at picking up on this stuff and I have read a lot of Terry Pratchett.

I just disagree with you. It's not because I'm an idiot who doesn't know how to read, it's because I don't think you're right.