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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-11-09 03:47 pm

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(Anonymous) 2024-11-09 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, there's nothing that can be done about it now. America has chosen. 48 states got redder during this election; Democrats couldn't even show up for down-ballots. So this is who America wants to be. This is who we are.

I live in one of the two states that went bluer so I'm going to stick my head in the sand and try to live the best life I can. Part of that is by not focusing on politics so much (which is silly since I'm typing this out but I've not talked about the election to anyone irl).

(Anonymous) 2024-11-09 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
You've put your finger on the problem. A couple of states got bluer, because the blues from all the states which got redder moved there. Making it easier and easier for Republicans to win a plurality. If the blues had stayed and fought, then maybe it would've been a tighter race.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-09 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

The idea that people should stay in places they don't like and/or don't feel safe in, just so they can maybe turn their red state blue, is crazy to me. The electoral college existing is the problem.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-09 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes it is. But acting like it isn't a factor and then complaining when all the Liberal Flight causes it to make it worse won't make it any better.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-10 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

You're right about that. I guess I'm defensive there because I'm a transplant from a red state to a blue, haha. I'm sure Liberal Flight had a small factor on the election results but I don't think that's the only thing that happened here. I think Democrats decided they didn't like Kamala (fair enough) and just decided not to vote for local elections either. And not voting at all, that's a decision that has consequences. :\
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[personal profile] philstar22 2024-11-09 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup. It is about the same to me as people who think people who are afraid for their lives should stay in their home countries to try to change things and risk their lives in the process rather than seeking asylum.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-10 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Yeah, that's ridiculous. Risking their lives, their family's lives. Not very many people are capable of being revolutionaries.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2024-11-10 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
Yup. And so many of them have already been through trauma and have PTSD and other trauma-related medical issues. I just don't understand people who don't have even a single ounce of empathy.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-10 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
da

I don't understand them either. I mean, I'm guessing some have their own issues and are just repeating the same cold bullshit that was said to them in a time of need (and they haven't figured out what a shitty thing that is to pay forward), or they are clueless as shit about someone else's situation.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-10 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
The electoral college is a problem. But the thing that got me down this election is that for the first time in my life a republican got the majority of the actual votes.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-10 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

yeah I've read several articles about how Gen Z is the first generation to be more conservative then their predecessors. :\ Shit's fucked.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-10 08:57 am (UTC)(link)
I've warned millennials that they were being complacent about "the young" and that Zers and upcoming Alphas are just packed full of little wannabe Nazis and other intolerant and self righteous shitheads, but nobody was listening. The kids are not gonna be alright. Got Okay Boomered for it, but we're finding out now I guess.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-10 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
I disagree that there's nothing we can do. But it will take courage, effort, organization, willingness to work with other people and a willingness to make sacrifices.

One thing that we can do is fight every step of the way when they do try to dismantle the institutions that are still in place to protect us. We can organize for electing good Democrat candidates for the midterms, and for state and local offices. We still have plenty of state and Federal judges who believe in the Constitution. We can support organizations like the ACLU and the Southern Poverty Law Center. We can donate to abortion funds, to bail and legal funds. There's still a lot we can do to fight, if we're willing to do it.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-10 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

I agree with what you're saying...but all of that is what should have already been happening. I understand people didn't like Kamala but Every state but two moved closer to red? Instead of being bolstered to at least vote in the down-ballots and local races to fight against not voting for an disliked President, Democrats just gave up. I suppose you could blame some of that on Blue Flight but surely not all.

But I'm not going to stress about it. I'm not going to keep up to date. I'll do a deep dive when elections come around but otherwise ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

(Anonymous) 2024-11-10 09:02 am (UTC)(link)
Democrats had no road map for change, and Trump and GOP did. It is that simple. Biden and Harris spent the last four years conceding issues, refusing to play hardball, and punting all hard decisions regarding Trump's malfeasance back to the electorate.

Trump's plans are full of bullshit, but at least he had them and was vocal about them. Lotta people are drowning and a drowning man will grab any lifeline. Dems were not throwing lifelines, they kept saying they'd keep the current system going but the current system is the problem.

Where is there roadmap for cheap groceries, a house in the suburb, and two cars in the garage? For prosperity for the lower middle class? They don't have one. Trump and the GOP had one. A bullshit one, but they had it. That is why the Dems got their butt handed to them and the GOP didn't. The Dems keep bringing "more of the same" candidates and policies to a "we freaking need change" electorate. Because the neoliberal donors demand that.

And that is without the Dems tendency to burn the left of their own party who they need as loyalists.

[personal profile] hey_hey_hey 2024-11-10 12:41 pm (UTC)(link)
And that is without the Dems tendency to burn the left of their own party who they need as loyalists.

I can't blame them. You can't always cry "we'll never vote for you unless you do X-Y-Z" and expect people to still listen. They will eventually (mistakenly) go after people they believe might vote for them.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-10 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
DA
I have COVID & had a raging fever on Election Day so I couldn't show up and vote. Don't blame me.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-10 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Oof, that really sucks. I hope you are recovering well.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-10 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Can you please point to where I can find which two states got bluer? My Google-fu is lacking for this specific information. Thank you in advance.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-11 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Washington and Maine.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-11 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
Tyvm!