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(Anonymous) 2024-11-21 05:41 am (UTC)(link)I get why he is doing it, he wants more of a legacy than "lost to Trump twice, once when he wasn't even running", but he already had a perfect strategy on Russia. We were bleeding Russia dry, in a way they would take generations to recover from. A quick defeat means a quicker rearming process and we have to do this all again in twenty years. Giving Ukraine just enough aid to bog down Russia, but not quite so much it causes Russia to fold or escalate, meant they were going to keep spending money and Russian lives they just could never replace. And we could have done this for a couple of decades with negligible loss to the West. It was a slamdunk.
Now Biden is gambling on Russia folding, and not Putin deciding if he loses then we all have to lose and escalating to nukes. And that is just stupid.
We need to go back to the slowly bleeding them dry approach.
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(Anonymous) 2024-11-21 06:39 am (UTC)(link)no subject
(Anonymous) 2024-11-21 07:44 am (UTC)(link)... so what are all of the Ukrainians who die in the process, chopped liver?
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(Anonymous) 2024-11-21 07:57 am (UTC)(link)I don't think that's why Biden's doing it. Even if he wanted more of a legacy, there'd be easier ways to achieve that than stepping up the U.S.' involvement with Ukraine and Russia, so that seems like a silly theory. I read this article on it and it was interesting:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/11/trump-biden-russia-putin-ukraine-zelensky-missiles.html
If true, then he's trying to do exactly what you mentioned - maintain a difficult holding pattern and keeping Russia in check.
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(Anonymous) 2024-11-21 01:59 pm (UTC)(link)For the record, a lot of us oppose what's happening to Haitians and other immigrants (assuming Trump gets his way). Unfortunately, yet another percentage of us would rather bury our heads in the sand and pretend what's happening outside our own circles doesn't exist.
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(Anonymous) 2024-11-21 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)If you can't tell, I'm disabled and all I can do is make what's here better. I can't run--nowhere takes disabled people. Because we don't contribute. But y'all who live outside love to pretend we don't exist so you can spout on about killing America and how it'll be better for everyone.
I'm so fucking tired of being everyone's acceptable sacrifice.
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(Anonymous) 2024-11-21 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)The slowly bleeding them dry approach hasn't been working. Ukraine needs means to resist and fight back. It's as simple as that. If you prefer letting Ukranians die in the meantime (and brainwashed Russian soldiers too) that's your choice. Also Putin is gonna do what Putin is gonna do because he isn't a sensible man and doesn't care for any human lives but his own.
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(Anonymous) 2024-11-22 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)Still no. Several countries/companies, including American ones, have violated or bypassed these sanctions to provide Russia with materials, weapons, funds, whatever, and vice versa. Russia has increased its effort to corrupt, hack, and sabotage so the situation is different now. The ones who are suffering the most from these sanctions are the people who are starving, not Putin. If your point is to let other people die to hypothetically save your country 50 years for now, that's not "working".