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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-11-29 05:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #6538 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6538 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[personal profile] fscom 2024-11-29 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
07. [WARNING for discussion of sexual assault]
https://i.imgur.com/LhfYWiJ.png

(Anonymous) 2024-11-29 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Who is this?

Not OP

(Anonymous) 2024-11-29 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
That looks like Sleep Token.

Re: Not OP

(Anonymous) 2024-11-30 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
DA
Truly never heard of them before.

Re: Not OP

(Anonymous) 2024-11-30 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, definitely Sleep Token.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-29 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, I don't know who this band is so maybe I shouldn't comment at all, but it's not just about knowing "what male musicians are like" and more like "what men in positions of power and influence are like". Call me cynical, but I think the pattern is clear - a disturbing number of men who have the ability to abuse their power, will do it. Politicians. Wealthy men. Male bosses who have female employees they can pressure. Domineering husbands whose wives are dependent on them or submissive to them for Reasons. It's not male musicians, it's men, period.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2024-11-29 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
People in power tend to be shit in general. Too many humans find it too easy for power to get to their head. There is less rape seen from women in power, but they have plenty of issues too.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-29 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't believe I said anything about women in power not having issues of their own. But I know that with any mention of male issues and abuse by men, someone always has to mention that women aren't exempt. It's kind of funny how women are so very careful to be fair, even when nobody has said women were perfect.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2024-11-29 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, that wasn't how I meant it at all. Rape is definitely a men in power thing. I only meant to add that power seems to be a corrupting influence for many people.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-29 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-29 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah no. Women AREN'T exempt and when the generalisation is purely "men in power bad" it's entirely fair to point out that every person in power regardless of gender has the potential to be equally shitty.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-29 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
They have the potential, sure. But it'd be a little disingenuous to pretend like both genders actually carry out the same level of abuse of power. You don't even have to be that politically or socially aware to know that there's a reason why men abusing their power comes up a LOT and somehow, even with equal potential, women... don't come up nearly as often.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-29 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Is there a field in which women broadly have completely equal - or more - power and potential for abuse as men so that comparison can be made?

Not seeking a debate, just wondering if there's data.

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(Anonymous) 2024-11-29 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, no really though. In total numbers, sure, based on the fact that there are more men in power than women. But in percentages, even disregarding the fact that men are much less likely to report abuse by women, I'm not sure there is such a huge divide.

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[personal profile] philstar22 2024-11-30 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Nope. Just look at how southern white women treated black men and women during and prior to the civil rights era. They may have been powerless against white men, but they had and very much used in awful ways power over black people.

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(Anonymous) 2024-11-30 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. No idea why musicians are singled out when plenty of writers, actors, artists, and other public figures have been outed with henious shit.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-30 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, it's true. It's just that it's not just musicians.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-30 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
Not OP, but my association with musicians (especially with alt and metal scene musicians as the secret appears to be about?) is the huge culture of preying on underage groupies. I'm thinking about all the memes about Warped Tour being groomer central.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-29 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait...what happened with Ghost?

(Anonymous) 2024-11-30 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
+1

First I'm hearing of this.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-30 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Nothing, as far as I'm aware... The worst was the royalty lawsuit that confirmed Forge as PE/CC/PN. There's not much about actual Ghouls. Martin Pesner left because of something, but it's never been revealed.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-30 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I knew about the lawsuit, but that was well before I ever fell down that Satanic rabbit hole.

The thing in the OP's image about someone in the band being a chomo is chilling, though.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2024-11-30 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
Jutty Taylor (Swiss) was accused of touching a couple fans of his other band inappropriately about 2 months ago. I have heard nothing of it, since, so I'm not sure if anything came of it.

(Anonymous) 2024-11-30 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Oh what the fuck. That sounds just plain awful.

(Anonymous) 2024-12-01 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)

>it will happen to everyone

"Happen to"? Guys don't turn out to be diddlers because the "turned out to be a diddler" fairy floated down from space and retcon'd a bunch of diddling into their past, they start by diddling.