[ SECRET POST #6562 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6562 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

IME a portion of slashers generally do feel uncomfortable about the perceived inherent power imbalance of M/F ships and make that known. Anyway, the attitude has run me out of fandoms before, so I know what OP means.

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da

if OP had meant "heteronormative power imbalance between men and women bad" I would think they were intelligent enough to say so

unless you're implying they weren't, and said something totally not what they meant?

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AYRT

I can't parse what you're saying here, sorry.

[(Anonymous)]

Then maybe you're bad at reading comprehension? It's perfectly clear what they're saying.

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da

I think they meant that if the OP had meant to say "people are criticizing M/F ships because they say men always have an advantage over women and so it's impossible to have het relationships where the man is not abusing the woman," they would have said that.

Some people become unable to express themselves without academese, and then pretend there's something wrong with you if you can't figure out jargon.

[(Anonymous)]

"power imbalance" is hardly academese, though?

and "power imbalance" a different enough thing from "men bad" that it'd make no sense to substitute one for the other like the first anon is implying the OP did

so to say "OP meant this totally other thing that isn't what they said" is either kinda dumb, or assuming OP is dumb

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, it definitely is. My first boyfriend in university came from a rural, working class family. If he'd gone home and tried to tell his parents anything about "power imbalance" they would have verbally smacked him down for using pretentious college words that meant absolutely nothing to them.

It's not reasonable to accuse someone who can't automatically translate these terms of not being able to understand what they read. They are not self-explanatory or universally known.

The rest of your point, I'd agree with. Yes, they're different arguments and no, the suggested one is not equivalent to what the OP said.

[(Anonymous)]

My first boyfriend in university came from a rural, working class family. If he'd gone home and tried to tell his parents anything about "power imbalance" they would have verbally smacked him down for using pretentious college words

Then they were fucking morons. Those are not "pretentious college words", that's a fairly commonly used and self-explanatory phrase. Just because some people are idiots that can't understand any words with more than two syllables doesn't make the words pretentious.

[(Anonymous)]

I hate the "power imbalance" thing. People take it to incredible extremes, and use it to argue for super regressive things like "people of different races shouldn't date." Fuck, in my area, people used it to take down a gay mayor who dared to challenge an incumbent for Congress, arguing that his position as mayor made his relationships with non-mayor men "exploitative."

[(Anonymous)]

That is batshit.

And yeah, I've seen it abused to justify ridiculous arguments too. People are never going to quantify all the ways that one person can have an advantage over another, and even if they did, it wouldn't justify assuming the relationship is abuse. I swear, the more people focus on blind insistence on sameness, the farther removed from reality their predictions and prejudices get. All in the name of fighting oppression.