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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-12-25 07:06 pm

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[personal profile] fscom 2024-12-26 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Politics thread:

Any threads for explicitly non-fandom politics or non-fandom political news should go here.

Ukraine

(Anonymous) 2024-12-26 12:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Ukraine is screwed and needs to surrender. Support for it has collapsed across Europe, regardless of what America does. It is basically over now, all they'd be doing is throwing away lives.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/26/support-for-ukraine-russia-war-yougov-poll-survey

Re: Ukraine

(Anonymous) 2024-12-26 12:17 pm (UTC)(link)
And that is from the ultra lefty, Putin hating, Guardian too. If Ukraine has lost the Grauniad, it has really lost the war.
philstar22: (Buffy: Giles WTF)

Re: Ukraine

[personal profile] philstar22 2024-12-26 12:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel like for a lot of, even maybe a majority of people, they have short attention spans. They care about an issue for a while, but they get sick of it and stop caring.

Ukraine is still being invaded by a foreign power with absolutely no justification. Russia is still committing all the war crimes. I genuinely don't understand why opinions would have changed other than just the general fickle attention spans of people.

Re: Ukraine

(Anonymous) 2024-12-26 12:55 pm (UTC)(link)
They don't think Ukraine can win, and they think trying to make it win will only escalate and put everyone else in danger. Time to fold and tap out. There is nothing to be gained by winning the moral argument but losing the war while doing it. Russia is in the wrong, but they also won. Sheer stubbornness on the issue is no virtue.
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Re: Ukraine

[personal profile] philstar22 2024-12-26 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Letting them have Ukraine is only going to embolden them and lead to them doing the same thing to other countries.

Re: Ukraine

(Anonymous) 2024-12-26 01:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Which ones? Russia can barely hold the bits of Ukraine it currently holds. It needs North freaking Korea to do so, for godssake, so which other country is it gonna be able to invade? Maybe if it had a land border with Luxembourg they'd be in trouble, but nah. Russia is not the old USSR with nigh on unlimited manpower. Maybe in a few generations if it ever manages to fully integrate The Ukraine back into Russia again, but that is not gonna be something to worry about in our lifetimes. So which countries is it gonna invade and hold? Seriously, citation needed.

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Re: Ukraine

(Anonymous) 2024-12-26 02:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you just read headlines and nothing else? Because you really give that impression.

Re: Ukraine

(Anonymous) 2024-12-26 02:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope Trump can do it. I mean Zelensky is a lying mass murderer who promised peace during his election, that's the reason he won over Porosheko. People wanted piece. Now they are grabbing men on the streets and sending them to war so that US and EU can test the new weapons, laundry the money and feed their military complex.

Israel is anexing its gheto area and neighbouring country. Hopefully it will be enough war action for the corporations. Ukraine and Russia were one country just 30 years ago. I fucking hate politicians that profit from wars, Biden and Victoria Nuland the cookie monster in particular.

Re: Ukraine

(Anonymous) 2024-12-26 03:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Here we see the limitations of using google translate from Russian to English.

Re: Ukraine

(Anonymous) 2024-12-26 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
my English is fine. Fuck you if you're from USA and support Biden. The war is your fault.

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Re: Ukraine

(Anonymous) 2024-12-26 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Not only you are lost. Ukraine wasn't part of Russia 30 years ago. It was part of USSR. And there is nothing especially good about empires, my guy

Re: Ukraine

(Anonymous) 2024-12-26 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Except the British one. It was pretty swell.

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Re: Ukraine

(Anonymous) 2024-12-26 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Go eat lead, Russian asset. literally. Find some lead paint and eat it.

Re: Ukraine

(Anonymous) 2024-12-26 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
> I fucking hate politicians that profit from wars

What's your opinion on Putin?

Re: Ukraine

(Anonymous) 2024-12-27 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt
hate!

Re: Ukraine

(Anonymous) 2024-12-26 03:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, hi Vlad.

Re: Ukraine

(Anonymous) 2024-12-26 04:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Here we see the limitations of using brain.

Re: Ukraine

(Anonymous) 2024-12-26 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
This is why no one likes you other than other assholes, Vlad. Say hi to Kim Jong Un for me.

Re: Ukraine

(Anonymous) 2024-12-26 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Man, why does FS of all places even have a pro-Russia troll? I keep wanting to make "digital equivalent of exile to outer Siberia" jokes, but for all I know that's actually where they are. Is it just because DW is Denise's project and FS is on Dreamwidth and used to be on LJ? Are they practicing for the big leagues?

Re: Ukraine

(Anonymous) 2024-12-26 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
What?
ariakas: (Default)

Re: Ukraine

[personal profile] ariakas 2024-12-26 04:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been thinking about this for a bit (the pro Russia troll + the terribly lost 4channer) and I'm wondering if they each get assigned an online space (or several) to make sure that someone keeps bringing it up over and over again with a given slant, no matter how removed it is from the topic of the forum in question.

I do feel kind of bad for the one assigned to us, there's not much spicy action to be had amongst maybe two-dozen aging fujos (on a good day) pawing over the scraps of yaoi left on the bones of Lord of the Rings and House MD.

Re: Ukraine

(Anonymous) 2024-12-26 04:56 pm (UTC)(link)
It could just be a regular comm member that either genuinely disagrees, or possibly got pissed off with all the smug self praising groupthink that goes on here. By the way, the move from lifejournal sucked and Case rigged the vote and still cheated when their rigging failed.

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Re: Ukraine

(Anonymous) 2024-12-26 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
The idea that trolls have some sort of meeting or sign up or something and are assigned spaces online is making me laugh so much. I love it.

Re: Ukraine

(Anonymous) 2024-12-27 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously. If you want to argue about Russia and spread propaganda, there's so much more active and (emphasis) not fandom-centric online spaces. It's bonkers to see a dedicated anon arguing over how we need to surrender to Russia on the same space where people confess to whether they love or hate boypussy and M!preg in their OTPs.