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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-12-25 07:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #6564 ]


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(Anonymous) 2024-12-26 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
The fact that people cannot see us as POC unless we have olive or dark skin is quite frustrating.

Legitimate question, why do you want them to? Race is a social construct*, and essentially if other people see you as white, you're white. Why would you want to be seen as a POC when you're obviously not perceived as one?

I know some people will think I'm trolling, but I honestly cannot understand this line of thinking.

Thinking about my own history, one side of my family left Europe after WW2. Half came to the US and half went to Argentina. Those of us in the US are considered white, we have European heritage and light skin, and it's never occurred to me that we'd be considered anything else.

I've never specifically asked my cousins from Argentina if they consider themselves white because it's never come up, but if they were in the US, they'd be considered white because we are literally from the same family tree/genetics. If the US side of the family moved to Argentina should we suddenly be considered not white? I don't see how a country's borders magically change someone's race.

*This might be considered inflammatory, but I can't think of another way to put it. I know a woman with light skin, blonde hair, and blue eyes...everyone I know considered her white, until people found out that her ancestors came from a primarily Spanish-speaking country, and now a large percentage of the group refer to her as a POC. How does finding out the language of her ancestors suddenly change her race? It literally makes zero sense.

(I'm sorry if I just sound like a massive idiot, but I honestly do not understand.)

(Anonymous) 2024-12-26 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT: Because it feels like we cannot celebrate the "Latino Heritage month" or anything related to Latinos UNLESS we look like they EXPECT to latinos to look like: olive or dark skin, dark hair, brown eyes and Mexican accent, which is quite racist, imo. It feels like everything related to Latinos only involves if they're inside USA and, outside, latinos do not count as POC unless they step into the country. Dunno if you can get my idea.

Besides claiming that France deserved to win because they had African/French with African ancestry is almost as stupid than the ones who claims France was bought to lose against Messi. Soccer do not work that way and even then, France had the chance to obtain a third championship and be the bi champion after Russia '18.

(Anonymous) 2024-12-26 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Ah, okay, I get it. Yeah, the US is weird when it comes to race, and a lot of people seem to conflate race and ethnicity, and think all Latinos must fit the stereotypical "type" that you mentioned, which I agree is racist. Someone can, of course, be white and ALSO Latino and/or Hispanic. I definitely see how it would be frustrating to be in that situation.