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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2024-12-29 05:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #6568 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6568 ⌋

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Transcript by OP

[personal profile] fscom 2024-12-29 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't understand the big deal with top/bottom being a big factor in ship dynamics. Full stop.

Example: posts that say, "Erm, THIS is who y'all headcanon as a top?", showing a screenshot of the character crying. Because people who like to penetrate others can't cry a lot, apparently?

I especially don't get the whole 'ship name order' thing. Double-especially when it's a nonsexual work. "It's tagged as X/Y when it's clearly Y/X!" Then I look and it's a comic where they're doing nothing more explicit than play-flirting. Why would who penetrates who matter in this scenario??

"It's because who tops and who bottoms affects the whole dynamic of the relationship, at all times!! Even in nonsexual scenarios, they don't step out of their roles!" Uh-huh. And dogs are boys, cats are girls, and strawberry milk comes from strawberry cows.

Re: Transcript by OP

(Anonymous) 2024-12-30 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
It's one of the reasons I struggled so much with shipping in general, be it gay or straight pairings.

For some reason, despite all the advancements of the feminist movement, people still have a hard time perceiving a romantic couple being equal partners, both of them loving, supporting, and helping each other through thick and thin; no, clearly we have to have a Strong Manly Action Male and a Womanly Female Wife. And no matter how the female half of the couple is depicted in canon, even if she has been continually depicted as being every bit as strong and capable as the male character, in shipping fanfics, she gets turned into a hysterical weepie with a spine of wet Kleenex.

And for some reason, when it comes to M/M pairings, too many people can't write them without one half of the pairing playing the part of the Woman and following the model for straight couples, the character drafted to play the Woman in these pairings displays all the worst femmey stereotypes in existence.

So yeah, regardless of who tops or bottoms or even if they just take turns, can we have M/M pairings where both halves are, well, men who love and support each other through good times and bad, rather than a man and his weeping femmey husband.