[ SECRET POST #6568 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6568 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

As an old who started in various Japanese fandoms and now tends to live on the fringes of Western fandoms, and as a fairly ace cis lady who writes more fic now than when I did when I was in school, here's what I can offer.

The others who mentioned top/bottom does not equal dom/sub are right. It might help, though, if you looked at those sexual-sounding things as general relationship-related things. I'd probably go with descriptions like, "Character A is assertive and wants to pursue a relationship with B, and while Character B is hesitant, perhaps even shy or awkward, B is interested in A."

The ship order of names has been important in a lot of Japanese fandoms for decades, and it stems from Japanese fans themselves. At fan cons (where fans make and sell fan comics, light novels, collab anthologies, and a variety of fun handmade goods), it became an easy shorthand to find what you were looking for. A lot of it means Top Character/Bottom Character (and often Dom/Sub thanks to ye olde Seme/Uke tropes) because a lot of it is explicitly sexy PWP. There are anthologies that, for ex, are all comics/stories about Character X being the uke (who's usually a sub bottom, but hey, it might have them topping from the bottom, who knows). Not all of it, though! Plenty of gen and gag and things with actual plot, too.

Note my "ye olde seme/uke tropes" mention. So much of those ideas continue to persist in many Asian fandoms... I tend to pause at teenagers on the internet getting really pedantic about who's who in a ship and must resist the urge to throw fuel on the fire by mentioning how they missed the whole "tatsu/neko" ("dragon/cat") era entirely, lol. (I'm terrible.) (Gay Japanese men are perfectly okay with those kids not knowing that lingo, I'm sure, although it did make its way into some BL manga.)

Thanks to AO3's tagging system, more people go with the alphabetical name order (based on family name, if they have one!) nowadays out of simplicity. In recent years, some fandoms have adopted adding additional character tags that let you know top/bottom or dom/sub (or switch! my beloved). Most, from what I've seen, don't use ship names in the relationship tag category of tags but might use it in the freeform tags.

Idk, to me, it's more important if people tag their fics/art/etc with appropriate warnings and kinks than for them to get bogged down thinking about relationship roles, which can range from exaggerated caricatures to fairly realistic. I mean, let us know if you're doing something OOC, but don't be afraid to play around with the archetypes, either.

Sorry, I lost my hold on this comment due to pets demanding attention, lol. Does it help at all? XD; Btw, I also appreciate your Usagi pic choice. :D

[(Anonymous)]

+100

Also an old who hung around a lot of animanga fandoms, and yes, this. It's annoying--I remember more than one convo with fandom friends where we expressed irritation with the seme/uke dynamic being mapped onto every queer pairing--but yeah, this is the context/comment I was looking for.

I do have my own preferences, but I'm really over caring about who does what to whom most often and how many fans find X or Y hot.

[(Anonymous)]

Tatsu/neko? Do you mean tachi/neko? Not sure what that has to do with dragons