[ SECRET POST #6571 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6571 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

I can't separate art from the artist because I feel the money I use to buy their product will go to funding/lobbying their shitty beliefs.

Blah blah blah "BuT ThEn YoU cAnT eNjoY aNyThInG" and "ShE SaYs FrOm A dEvIcE mAdE WiTh SlAvE LaBoR LOL"

We all have our personal lines in the sand. Lucky for me the worst people I was ever a fan of was The Rick & Morty guy and the Ren & Stimpy Guy, which were easy to give up.

[(Anonymous)]

You're right, you are lucky. I hope you never have to find out something hard for you to give up was made by a shitty person. But judging from your use of the alternating caps meme to argue with a strawman that nobody uses anymore, you'd probably find a way to justify yourself if you did.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT
I really wouldn't justify it. Like we both agreed, I'm lucky.

Actually I take it back, SE7EN is one of my favourite movies, and...well... *sigh* yeah, that's a tough one. But of course, I already bought the blu-ray years before both Spacey and Pitt were outted as horrible people, so financially, I'm not supporting them, and haven't since they were outted.

I was a Depp fan, and was Team Depp during that whole thing, but now I know better and dropped him, too.

I removed all the Marilyn Manson songs from my playlists.

But I was never a JKR fan, or a Gaiman fan, or Diddy or R Kelly or Brandon Sanderson or Ruini(Can't even spell it) Kenshin. If I find out someone's a Scientologist, I instantly drop them.

[philstar22]

Hang on, Brandon Sanderson? What did he do terrible?

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe cause he's Mormon and while he might not agree with everything, he still gives money to the Churchill.

[(Anonymous)]

CHURCH. I hate you, autocorrect.

[philstar22]

Sure, and I get why someone would choose not to read anything written by a Mormon. That being said, to put him on the same list with those other people who have actually done awful things is what I find questionable.

[(Anonymous)]

Like I said, I *think*. I'm not sure.
I *think* it's because he directly funds the church, which does awful things, with his money.
Could be there is something else.

[(Anonymous)]

Anon...you...replied to? SE7EN ANON. Sure.

Yes. It's because he gives money to the Mormon church.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, I definitely use the slave labor argument, because I get really tired of people making empty gestures. You post stuff with #LandBack, and talk about decolonization, but...you're a white person who owns property on formerly Native land, with no intent on ever relinquishing it to a Native person? You support reparations for slavery, and think the US is forever tainted by it, but...you eat fish that was caught by modern day slaves; and use devices and vehicles powered by a mineral extracted by modern day slaves, typically children (and typically Black!)?

It's all just talk to make people feel good about themselves. Changing the world for the better takes actual sacrifice, which almost no one wants to make.

And yes, I am currently using a device with a lithium battery in it, which means I've contributed to the problem. I'm not sure what I'm going to do when it dies, as now that I know how it's made, I do feel genuine discomfort over it. Maybe I'll find a refurbished phone or something, so I'll at least know that no additional cobalt has been mined on my behalf.

[(Anonymous)]

SE7EN Anon.
The "problem" with this argument is that now we need things like cars and phones and the internet to function. Like literally _function_. And it unfortunately falls into the No Ethical Consumption Under Capitalism problem.

We don't NEED Harry Potter.

[(Anonymous)]

People have always argued that we need exploitation to exist in order to function. The people who benefit from exploitation always, always argue that there's no other way, or that it's too hard to make any meaningful changes.

No Ethnical Consumption Under Capitalism is a convenient excuse, particularly given that we're completely unwilling to really do anything about the capitalism that we claim to abhor. Choosing not to purchase or consume media is an easy way to assuage one's personal guilt, but it doesn't do a damn thing. At the end of the day, it's still the case that we'd rather there be slavery, that we'd rather children die for us, than to have to give up our first world comforts.

[philstar22]

This is my take. When it comes to things I find abhorrent, I just can't personally support the creators/artists/authors. If they are dead, I'm less uncomfortable. But I don't want to give money to people who are actively promoting awful things.