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Because you think their already exists a perfect version. (And what is that perfect version?)

Every now and then I see talk about a new movie, and I think "why? When the perfect movie already exists?"

But what if The Muppets?

No more Batman or Joker movies, ever.

Because you're tired of them or because you think they got it right already?

Keaton/Nicholson already exists. I didn't think it needed saying.

That's my favorite as well. But I know some nerds who disagree so thought it worth asking.

PJ LoTR and Hobbit (mind you, I'v only see Part 1 of TH, but that was enough.) The perfect adaptations already exist in the form of the BBC Radio series, and I'm not going to enrage myself by sitting through... whatever the films were meant to be for a second time.

I don't know if there is a perfect adaptation yet but high5 cosigned. I'm glad there are people who can get past the imperfections to like those movies, but I can't. I would rather have no visual adaptation than whatever the films were meant to be.

ayrt Objectively speaking, I think the films served a useful purpose in getting a lot of people to read the books, and continue to serve a purpose in keeping Disney out of the franchise. But I will never watch them again. Blech.

Curious as a fan of the LotR movies (not the hobbit) what you dislike about them so much? Just everything?

I have only read the books once and was sadly a little bored with them, but I enjoyed the movies well enough when they came out. Have never rewatched them though.

Pretty much everything, yes. I've read and loved the books so many times, and I grew up a few miles from where Tolkien did and even Hobbiton looked wrong. So I got off on the wrong foot right away.

Then there were the alterations they made to the plot which didn't add up, and to the characters and their motivations (Gimli and Denethor were just the tip of a very large iceberg.) Sets were wrong - Rohan a blasted heath, more or less, and where were Minas Tirith's farmlands? Small details like that, easily fixed if they could be bothered. The seeming three months they spent on Cirith Ungol and the afternoon they spent crossing Mordor...

Some of the scenery was nice, and I'm not just talking about Sean Bean.

But Tolkien sold the rights, etc etc, and Disney will be kept at bay for a while, so that's good.

I totally, totally get this. I feel like I should be this way. And I do go through times where I nitpick and get annoyed at little things. And there are adaptions where I feel this way (Wizard of Oz). And yet, as many issues as they have, when it comes to Tolkien Adaptions, I just want to be in Middle Earth. Even a really distorted version still makes me happy.

But I totally get you OP, and they do get so much wrong.

other anon who agrees with ayrt: everything sums it up. Jackson claims to be a fan but I feel all these years later that he was only ever a fan of the aesthetic, not the themes or the writing. If he understood Tolkien's themes there would not have been elves at Helm's Deep, among other things. It's not like the things he got wrong were changing otherwise unfilmable scenes, he just chose to film it some bizzaro my-vision way instead of as written. It's like once he started tweaking it to add more Hollywood blockbuster, the more it had to keep being tweaked so the early tweaks didn't unravel the whole sweater.

I had a storyboarding class in college (well before the movies came out) and one of the assignments was to storyboard a scene from a book. I chose Weathertop. Even wrote the camera directions exactly as written, panning past the fire to the silhouettes on the side of the hill... The movie scene was nothing like it. I got an A on that btw.

Sure, maybe they were banking on the blockbuster to make back all that money spent, but I do agree with ayrt that it did get people to read the books, and it does keep Disney away, but the changes are just something I can't with. Ever.

Even wrote the camera directions exactly as written, panning past the fire to the silhouettes on the side of the hill... The movie scene was nothing like it. I got an A on that btw.

Tolkien was a very visual writer - and he knew an awful (I choose the word carefully) lot about battles, both ancient and modern. Why PJ felt the need to mess with any of this is beyond me.

I think the casting, directing, and editing/pacing was just perfect. (Edit: I mean the TV miniseries from the 1970s/80s)

I can’t imagine a more modern version that didn’t try to make the story more bloody and/or violent in an attempt to “spice it up” (and fundamentally change what I think is so good about the stories in the first place).

Edited 2025-01-04 23:23 (UTC)

Sonic, because the OVA was perfect and if I have to see another live action movie I'll scream.

Lord of the Rings. Not by any means the perfect version. But it does capture things well. And I'd be scared that another adaption would ruin things. Besides, I want to see other parts of middle earth. Don't redo what has been done, there is so much to explore.

Anne of Green Gables. You can't beat the miniseries.

Sword of Truth. Not because Legend of the Seeker is a perfect adaption but because a perfect adaption would be bad. LOTS was fun and cut out all the terrible parts.

Big +1 to Anne. They just hit everything right with that first miniseries.

I thought your comment on the Sword of Truth was funny because I never ended up watching Legend of the Seeker because by the time I quit the books I was so fed up with the story/author and just assumed an adaptation would be just as bad. But if they could take the good parts and ideas, it could be great.

Legend of the Seeker is just fun. It isn't quality tv per say. But they just have fun with it. And there is lots of equal opportunity sexy that the show plays up. It is barely related to the books other than character and place names and a few concepts like confessors, but given the books we're talking about, that's totally okay.

The Wachowskis' Speed Racer is not only a perfect adaptation of the original TV series, but a darn good film in its own right.

The Shawshank Redemption
All the President's Men
Jurassic Park
The Princess Bride
Apollo 13
Stand by Me

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