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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2025-01-12 03:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #6582 ]


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(Anonymous) 2025-01-13 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
I thought sapphic and lesbian were the same thing? What is the difference?

(Anonymous) 2025-01-13 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
They are the same thing, I'm not sure why they're using both.

(Anonymous) 2025-01-13 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Sapphic is an umbrella term that includes lesbians, but the two terms are not interchangeable.

DA

(Anonymous) 2025-01-13 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
I've only seen them used as interchangeable, could you explain a bit more? I am clearly out of the queer loop.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2025-01-13 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
A quick google search:

Sapphic: an umbrella term that includes lesbians, bisexuals, pansexuals, trans femmes, mascs, nonbinary people, and cis women who are attracted to women or nonbinary people. Sapphic is more focused on attraction to a potential lover's humanity, rather than a specific gender identity.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2025-01-13 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
That is kind of frustrating that they took a term used for women loving women and said it isn't about gender.

But that is why I generally don't really participate in queer discourse and just live my own happy little queer life. The kids can do what they want.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2025-01-13 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
the term you want for women loving women is lesbian. if you don't want to include other demographics, don't use sapphic. Simple.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2025-01-13 06:53 am (UTC)(link)
Even that isn't 100% though. I've seen people claiming that you can be a lesbian if you're into non-binary people, and even men as long as it's rare, and that you don't even have to be a woman to be a lesbian anymore, that men or non-binary people can be lesbians.

As long as I've been aware of anything sexuality-related, lesbian met that you were a woman and you were into women and ONLY women. If you liked men, even if it was rare, you were bisexual, just with a preference for women.

But according to these people you can also apparently be a gay man who loves having sex with women or an asexual who loves sex.

It's like words have no meaning anymore.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2025-01-13 12:00 pm (UTC)(link)
-If you are occasionally attracted to men, especially in an abstract way, no one is hurt if you call yourself a lesbian.
-Asexual means that person doesn't feel attraction or their attraction has too many caveats. It does not mean that they don't have working libido or can't enjoy an orgasm.
If you include gender it gets really messy. Unless person is hurting you it's their business how they call themsleves

It's like our understanding of sexuality and labels is changing or something

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2025-01-14 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
You've got the right idea about lesbian. And about a lot of misleading word use.

There are, eh, corner cases. Like, I am bisexual and so is my wife, but we've been happily married to each other for a long time and aren't looking for additional partners, so we usually just clarify that we're married and if people assume that must mean we're lesbians, they're close enough. But the amount of navel-gazing around sexuality gets silly, and unless you're propositioning me or hoping I will set you up with friends of a particular sex, I probably don't care what you're attracted to.

(Anonymous) 2025-01-13 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
But still, it's redundant to use both to describe yourself.

(Anonymous) 2025-01-13 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
Gives "gay gay homosexual gay" vibes.