[ SECRET POST #6598 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6598 ⌋

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heard v depp (oh no!)

[(Anonymous)]

I can NOT believe people are still defending heard when she is on tape being abusive to him. I'm not saying Depp is a good person, but I heard the tapes. Heard SUUUUUCKS. You can't be telling people they have five minutes to come back so you can keep yelling at them and then claim YOU'RE the victim. Literally she's on tape caling Depp a coward and telling him to have sex with his bodyguard because said bodyguard broke up a fight between them before it got physical, like what?

Re: heard v depp (oh no!)

[(Anonymous)]

I think anyone who didn't conclude from that whole shitshow that they're both toxic people is fooling themselves.

Re: heard v depp (oh no!)

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't heard the tapes and haven't kept up with much with the case.

Having been in an abusive relationship, I can honestly say sometimes you say and do things you aren't proud of (though you may be in the moment) because you're fed up with the abuser's treatment of you, and so far you haven't been allowed to express your anger safely or react in any way that any normal person would have in response to abuse. Does it excuse what you did? No. Does it make you a bad person? Based on that alone, no, it doesn't.

And honestly, if the defense of Depp is that "well, she was just as bad as HE was" then I don't think that's a very good defense of him.

It's kind of like when a bully says something horribly nasty to you in school where nobody can hear, and deliberately walks away before you can respond. And you chase after the bully yelling at them, maybe calling them names because they called you a name. But what does the public see? You being a bastard to the poor bully. Hell, the tactic is so common, you might have seen it play out in a cartoon.

Like I said, I haven't been following the case. This is just a perspective to consider.

Re: heard v depp (oh no!)

[(Anonymous)]

But you can turn this straight around just as well. Maybe HE just reatliated against HER abuse. Not saying that's the case, but she also does have a history with domestic abuse where she was the perpetrator so it's just as likely.

Re: heard v depp (oh no!)

[(Anonymous)]

I don't necessarily think OP claiming that Amber Heard is also not a good person are mounting a "defense of Depp" tbf.

"Both sides are bad so it doesn't matter" and "both sides are bad so we should condemn them both" are very different proposals and people don't check which one others mean.

Re: heard v depp (oh no!)

[(Anonymous)]

The thing is, I don't think she was as bad as he was. I think she was way, way worse. If you're going to claim that the bully has done these horrible things to you, things that should have put you in the hospital if they really did happen, then it's odd to tell the bully they're a coward for not staying and fighting with you. It's really odd to put rules on your bully. I doubt you've ever told your bully, "You have five minutes to recover from my abuse or else I can't trust our relationship."

The BIGGEST indicator to me is that fact that these recordings exist in the first place. Apparently, their therapist told them to record their conversations because Heard was gaslighting Depp so hard that they needed an objective version of reality to rely on. There's one point I remember when Heard says something and Depp response with, "Go listen to the recordings, that's what they're there for." What abuser wants a victim to have an objective view of reality?