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It's actually really easy not to.

If you grew up in an entirely isolated, massively sheltered tiny bubble, maybe.

My parents are racist as shit, it's almost like I heard them talking with contempt about other human beings and instead of thinking 'this is normal and I should parrot this as if I don't have a brain' I thought they were being mean and wrong about yanno PEOPLE. Shocking to be able to think for myself I know.

Seriously. I'm starting to believe this community is full of shitty people (or trolls). Not using bigoted terms is actually really easy if you're not a bigot.

I once saw a sprayed swastika on a tree while on a walk in kindergarten and drew it at home without knowing what it was and my dad flipped his shit. So yeah, still a bad symbol, happened entirely on accident. Same with some slurs I heard in school that I didn't know the meaning of at the time and just parroted. So no, I do not for a single second believe someone when they say "I never even once use a bigoted word, even on accident as a kid because I'm just that flawless and perfect".

DA

There are also some slurs that lots of kids - especially if we're going as young as 15 - kinda-sorta knew the meaning of but not really. If you went back in time to ask a 15 year old in 1990 what a "dyke" is they'd likely not actually even know. "Um, a manly woman? Something like that?"

Lots of kids - and 15 year olds are kids - didn't have all the knowledge about terms that were being flung around and lots didn't have internet or knowledgeable communities with which to "just educate themselves" either. Now, it's easy to google a term and get the whole internets' input but it's easy to forget that plain wasn't possible for some people.

They're kids and don't know better when it come to racism/bigotry, but they're not kids and old enough to know better when being shit heads about ships and fictional characters.

Pick one, you cannot have it both ways.

lol where did the AYRT say anything about shipping or anti discourse 😭 This place is diet Tumblr, I swear.

Where's this dichotomy coming from? To me they're kids in both instances.

Okay, yeah, in that case, that makes sense. I was a teenager in the early-mid 2000s and it was very easy to educate yourself if you didn't already know from school being very inclusive and teaching you that everyone was equal and you shouldn't judge people on the color of their skin or their religion or whatever. Anyone my age and younger I will absolutely judge because we knew better, even as teenagers. I don't blame older people, though.

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When I was 12 I recall other 12 year olds called me "bisexual" when they were mad because they thought it was a rude word, not because they were even trying to say something about my sexuality. I didn't know what it meant either, I thought they were calling me transgender or something. I'm not gonna assume those kids grew up to be homophobes. Some people double down on bigoted behavior as they grow up, sure. Some people are quick to change when they learn more.

So no, I do not for a single second believe someone when they say "I never even once use a bigoted word, even on accident as a kid because I'm just that flawless and perfect".

If you didn't know better, I don't blame you. But some of us did know better. If, for example, you had a racist grandpa who liked to say all sorts of slurs for all sorts of groups of people, and your mom said, "don't use any of those words that grandpa used, we don't call anyone other than the proper word for their group (black, gay, Asian, etc.)", and you listen to her and don't use those words, then yeah, it's possible to not use bigoted words. It doesn't mean you're flawless and perfect, just that you were taught that some words were not okay to say.

And again, this only applies if you were either in a super sheltered bubble, homeschooled and never in contact with other kids from different backgrounds than you and always were taught the meaning of every slur in life-form in advance. Or all of the above.

List-form lol autocorrect stop it

"never in contact with other kids from different backgrounds than you"

This is really starting to piss me off, you people seem to lack reading comprehension. I will repeat what I said before. When my racist grandpa said every slur under the sun and my mom said, don't repeat any of those words you heard him say, you should only use the proper words for people, and then I heard a kid at school call a black kid the n-word, I think "that's one of the words grandpa says, it is wrong to call people that, I will never use that word" and so I didn't. What is so fucking hard to understand about that?

But that was AFTER someone told you those words were bad! You acting like everyone had the privilege to always be told beforehand what a slur/bigoted word was as soon as they heard it in the wild and acting this is normal and ~not that hard~ is what's pissing ME off.

I didn't say that. The only point I'm trying to make is that some people genuinely DIDN'T use bigoted words because they were taught not to, because some people here seem to think that's impossible. Obviously plenty of people were not taught those words were bad, but that's not everybody, some people WERE taught that.

Uh, no. I never used any of those words BECAUSE I grew up surrounded by people of other races and backgrounds, so why would I use a word that was hurtful to people I encountered every day?

Except I don't believe for a second you always knew at any time full well the meaning and implications of every word you happened to hear without context or never ever in your life accidentally used a slur you didnt know was one. You can keep pretending, of course, considering your fragile "I'm so pure, good and saintly" ego might crack otherwise, but you're not fooling anyone.

It's really very sad and very disturbing that lots of people here will blindly accept a 'racist phase' as something that everyone does because it really, really shouldn't be and frankly speaks to how deeply fucked we are as a species.

But hey.

Yes. I've seen so many people (not here, just in general) get really pissed off when someone calls out their racism because they're like "I'm just saying what we're all thinking!" and like...no, all of us DO NOT think those things.

I think racists just find it really hard to believe that everyone else is not racist, too.

I don't think people should be handwaving it or acting like it's something to be proud of, it's a very regrettable and disturbing thing, but it's a good thing IMO if someone came from a place of ignorance to a place of respect. I certainly wouldn't prefer that people stayed bigoted. It's cool when people question their beliefs and are willing to admit they were wrong.

Dunno, I feel the opposite. I'm glad it's a phase and I'm glad there's proof that so many people, even if their parents and communities taught them all the wrong things when they were younger, got over it and changed. It proves that bigotry is taught and not inherent and that acceptance can also be taught and take hold even afterward.

Also: nobody is saying everyone had a racist phase? Someone using bigoted language or once having been prejudiced or biased against something is not necessarily racial in nature.

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