[ SECRET POST #6632 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6632 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Kinda suspect a lot of people's objections are more vibes-based than principled based on how they react when people actually do use ai ethically.

100%. You can tell from the way people keep recycling anti-NFT arguments that are completely irrelevant to generative AI.

Discussion question 1: NFTs used stupid amounts of energy on purpose to create artificial scarcity, whereas the excess consumption of AI is a cost that the corps would very much like to cut. How will this effect the environmental argument against AI if it happens?

[erinptah]

If that happens, the "it's terrible for the environment" argument will go away!

It hasn't happened yet. Hasn't even come close. And the environmental argument won't stop being relevant until/unless it happens.

(I would love to use an ethical, non-destructive version of this tech. I hate that every part of our lives is currently getting swamped by the bad version.)

[feotakahari]

An argument I’ve seen multiple times: why specifically A.I.? If it’s an issue for A.I. to use massive amounts of water, why does no one criticize, for example, Google searches using massive amounts of water? The uncharitable interpretation is that people don’t want to criticize something they still want to use.

[erinptah]

People do criticize Google for its environmental impact! The company has a range of sustainability targets that it's trying to reach! And you know the executives did that out of public pressure, not the goodness of their hearts.

As a result of getting into generative AI, Google is no longer on track to meet those sustainability goals.

The amount of power/water/resources demanded by the AI stuff is wildly out-of-scale with everything else in tech. (Unless you count cryptocurrency, which is why people have similar complaints about crypto.) The amount of criticism it gets is proportionate to how bad it is.