[ SECRET POST #999 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #999 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Special submissions post for Post #1000 HERE. The link to the normal submissions post is below, as usual.

LAST DAY!

And sorry about the # of secrets per post, but you're getting 7 days worth in 6 days this week. It'll be back to normal next week.

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Comments

[skelody.livejournal.com]

I'm always a bit torn on declarations like this. On the one hand, yay for positive body image. On the other hand, it's seriously depressing that women's body image is so dependent on men's judgment.

[(Anonymous)]

TBH it's no worse than men worrying women won't like them unless they have a six-pack of abs or a sexual organ of an "impressive" size.


As someone who had to deal with body image issues similar to the OP... I must say that the issue comes from worrying both men AND women will judge them or make fun of them for not having "perfect" breasts... which really is often the case.

I hope Hollywood actually starts using more "real" looking women soon... then again that is probably a pipedream.

[skelody.livejournal.com]

More to the point, it's no better.

I've heard that UK television has less of a problem with the portrayal of women's bodies.

[(Anonymous)]

Then you've heard lies.


People are always going to want to appeal to the person they find attractive. This is not going to change as long as humanity exists. What needs to change is the narrow definition of attractive and worthy we have as a culture.

[skelody.livejournal.com]

Well, that sucks, eh.


It's always going to be true, but that doesn't mean it's good. Humans will always be selfish and fallible, but I don't have to like it.

[thene]

Somewhat, in that UK TV has either less or no ads depending on the channel (ads are restricted to, iirc, six minutes an hour instead of 15) so there's no drive to make viewers feel inadequate in order to sell advertising. In commercial media, advertising is content and content is advertising, etc.

I mean, it's still often a beauty pageant but I don't know that you'd get shows like Two Fat Ladies, Ab Fab or French & Saunders made in the USA. I don't know that Victoria Wood would have become famous in the USA. We've got our treasured older women, like Judi Dench and Zoe Wanamaker. There's that piece of elbow room on UK TV for women who aren't thin and/or beautiful.

When my husband first saw the ads for the UK version of The Office on Comedy Central a couple of weeks ago, he pointed to a female character and said that she was wearing an ugly dress, and that in a US show they'd never do that. I don't watch much TV and I don't follow fashion so I've no idea how accurate a statement that is, but it makes sense that fashion would follow the rest of the beauty industry wherever the advertising industry is involved.

The other big difference is that US TV seems to be built on movie conventions and UK TV seems to be built on stage conventions, and perfection in form and image definitely belongs more to the former.


/immigrantly ramble

[skelody.livejournal.com]

Thank you for the ramble :) It's always good to hear from a primary source, instead of relying on hearsay and guesswork.