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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2009-10-06 05:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #1005 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1005 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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102.
[Albert Ellis/Carl Rogers]


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103.
[Soul Eater]


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104.
[Loony Toons]


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105.
[Glee]


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106.
[Dreamcatcher]


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107.
[Dollhouse]


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108.
[Air Force One]


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109.
[Folklore]


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110.
[Final Fantasy 9/Phoenix Wright/Mega Man/Gurren Lagann]


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111.
[Patrick Stewart/Jeremy Northam/Hugh Laurie/Cary Grant]


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112. [too big]


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113.
[07-Ghost]


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114.
[Supernatural]


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115.
[Charm School]


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116.
[Avatar]


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117.
[Bosom Buddies]


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118.
[Fame]


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119.
[X-Factor]


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120.
[Kev and Alice]


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121.
[Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle]


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122.
[Scott Gairdner]


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123.
[Zero Punctuation, Guitar Hero World Tour, Neon Genesis Evangelion]


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124.
[Questionable Content]


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125.
[Homeward Bound]


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126.
[Supernatural/Pita-Ten]


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127.
[Lena Headey]


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128.
[Veronica Mars]


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129.
[Last Days, deleted scene]


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130.
[Supernatural, The Amazing Race]


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131.
[The Dresden Files]


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132.
[Song of Ice and Fire]


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133.
[The Vampire Diaries]


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134.
[Supernatural]


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135.
[Juno]


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136.
[Elijah Wood]


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137.
[Life on Mars]


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138.
[Days of Our Lives]


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139.
[Good Omens]


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140.
[The Mentalist]


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141.
[Supernatural]


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142.
[Lie to Me]


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143.
[Supernatural]


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144.
[Burn Notice]


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145.
[Fullmetal Alchemist]


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146.
[3rd Rock from the Sun]


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147.
[Supernatural]


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148.
[Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog]


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149.
[Song of Ice and Fire]


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150.
[Gyro Gearloose/Uncle Scrooge]


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151. http://i37.tinypic.com/acwnrc.png
[porn... I think?, A Mate]


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Re: OP

[identity profile] gethenian.livejournal.com 2009-10-07 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
Well of course that theme was there. But you have to look at it contextually. Partly that is in context of the time it was written and the time it was portraying -- it's a relatively accurate, albeit arguably exaggerated, take on the social roles of men and women and how they were reinforced, individually and culturally. If you recall, it reflects homophobic attitudes as well -- in the pretty boy with the fluttering hands and large-breasted wife who INSTITUTIONALIZED HIMSELF.

But more so than that... well, I've never seen the play, and it's been a long time since I read the book, but I seem to recall that NO ONE in that story was really "glorified." I guess in the sense of obtaining power in the context of the plot, perhaps, but there is a difference between a character obtaining power and a character being portrayed as a sympathetic or heroic individual. As I recall, there was very little of the latter.

Sexist characters in a sexist society do not a sexist story make. But if it troubled you so much... I believe it did EXACTLY what it was intended to do. And that is the mark of a really GOOD story.

OP

(Anonymous) 2009-10-07 02:51 pm (UTC)(link)
But I don't really know if, in this production of the play at least, it was done consciously or not. To me it seemed a lot like McMurphy was being congratulated for taking the role of a man and asserting his masculinity when he constantly treated every woman around him as sex objects; it was seen as a positive thing when he convinced the others to follow his lead.

I'll agree that it's a great story, and it was a well-done production of the play, but even taking the context into account, and the possibility that the sexism was on purpose and all that, it still really squicked me hard.