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Do you think that Trump & Co. will ever have to face real criminal penalties for what they've done?

(Anonymous) 2025-05-24 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a given that they've committed crimes and done terrible things, and while there have been charges, etc. I mean do you think they'll have to face trial and actual prison time for what they've done? I hope so, but I fear I might be a little optimistic on that front. Every day it seems like some fresh horror awaits and they're still allowed to destroy this country bit by bit. It's gotten to the point where I'm not sure there can be the kind of legal repercussions taking place because the system no longer allows for the people responsible to be held responsible.

And second question, when do you think this will happen? Under what circumstances?

I'm not trying to start a war here, I'm just frustrated and sad and would like to hear what other people think about this.

Re: Do you think that Trump & Co. will ever have to face real criminal penalties for what they've do

(Anonymous) 2025-05-24 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope. Republicans have never had to face proportional consequences.

Re: Do you think that Trump & Co. will ever have to face real criminal penalties for what they've do

(Anonymous) 2025-05-24 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's very much possible, yes. Not a certainty, but possible. The more he hurts his base, the higher the chance that they'll wake up and start to turn against him and his Republican party. And since a lot of his policies hurt his followers, it's going to be a matter of when this happens, not if. If it happens before he and his minions dismantle the government, then I think they'll eventually face criminal charges (though Donnie might die first. He is old and unwell, lbr).

Re: Do you think that Trump & Co. will ever have to face real criminal penalties for what they've do

(Anonymous) 2025-05-24 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I think this is one of those things where leftists and liberal activists will have to hold their nose and reach out to the disaffected Trump voters. It hasn't even been a year into his first term and I'm noticing even in my red state that the overall "yay Trump, he's gonna fix the economy" fanfare has died as more people are getting laid off, having their veteran's benefits taken away, and the low income seniors who voted for him are getting higer taxes.

I have tons of respect for the Republicans who turned against Trump and other disaffected conservatives and right-leaning Libertarians who dislike his authoritarism, but need to bring more working people with little power together.

Re: Do you think that Trump & Co. will ever have to face real criminal penalties for what they've do

(Anonymous) 2025-05-25 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
I truly, genuinely do not understand how anyone could possibly believe that Trump would "fix" the economy. The man went broke running casinos, for God's sake. That's virtually impossible to do.

Re: Do you think that Trump & Co. will ever have to face real criminal penalties for what they've do

(Anonymous) 2025-05-25 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
See, while *I* think it's indisputable that his policies have hurt his followers, I'm not sure they're going to make a difference because:

1) even if they understand what's been done to them and that Trump is responsible, they'll be too proud and stubborn to admit it

2) even if they went so far as to want to hold Trump responsible, I don't think they know how to go about doing this. Complaining on social media is one thing, but actually systemically voting their support to another party or candidate is another.

Re: Do you think that Trump & Co. will ever have to face real criminal penalties for what they've do

(Anonymous) 2025-05-25 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
If there's one silver lining, there have been recent victories by Democrats in areas that voted (and sometimes overwhelmingly) Trump. Have people actually learned their lesson? I dunno, but for the time being, I'll take "holy shit fascist regime equals bad, who knew" until we can get to a better place.

Re: Do you think that Trump & Co. will ever have to face real criminal penalties for what they've do

(Anonymous) 2025-05-25 07:40 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, so many of his voters have a brand loyalty other GOP politicians haven't in a long time. I've known Bush voters who were willing to admit that starting two wars, the Patriot Act, and No Child Left Behind were stupid moves, but then there are Trump voters who say that they don't regret it and Harris would still be worse even after having their spouse deported and losing their job. My father has threatened my family if we voted for anyone else and was dead set that Trump would save his career, but now he makes less money now and blames it on the illegal immigrants despite working in a field they can't even access.

Re: Do you think that Trump & Co. will ever have to face real criminal penalties for what they've do

(Anonymous) 2025-05-24 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope so, but I don't know. I feel like after 2029 people will forget about Trump the same was they forgot about Bush Jr.

Re: Do you think that Trump & Co. will ever have to face real criminal penalties for what they've do

(Anonymous) 2025-05-24 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
There will be, but the people have to push for it. Never let the elected officials (who will be in office then) get a minute of sleep until each and every one of Trump's admin are held accountable. It kind of sucks that's where we are, but we have to stop electing folks to office and then acting very hands off about our future once they're in. None of this showing up only four years to vote, none of this pretending that local elections don't matter (because they do). We elect folks to office to represent the people, not billionaires and corporations. If they're the type to forget that fact, then we need to call/email/fax and keep reminding them.

Re: Do you think that Trump & Co. will ever have to face real criminal penalties for what they've do

(Anonymous) 2025-05-24 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Orange Julius, no. He'll die before he sees so much as a holding cell. Others, maybe. The fact that after the first go-round some did, is the only hope I have that even more will.

I just want him to die on his toilet shitting himself to death like Elvis.

Re: Do you think that Trump & Co. will ever have to face real criminal penalties for what they've do

(Anonymous) 2025-05-24 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Nah, let him choke to death on food in public. Then his base can't screech about an assassination, because how the fuck is someone gonna make him choke on his own food?

Re: Do you think that Trump & Co. will ever have to face real criminal penalties for what they've do

(Anonymous) 2025-05-25 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, you're talking about the same voter base who thinks that Critical Race Theory is evil even though they don't know what that is, trans people stealing athletic victories despite no evidence to that, vaccines causing autism, etc. etc. Politics in the U.S. has taught me that there is no bottom to how low peoples' stupidity goes in terms of blaming others or thinking up nutty conspiracy theories.

Re: Do you think that Trump & Co. will ever have to face real criminal penalties for what they've do

(Anonymous) 2025-05-25 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'd be surprised (and not thrilled) if he even lives to the end of this presidency. But I hope that the disgusting in-fighting over his corpse...I mean his "legacy"...splinters the right vote so hard that they never get in again. And I'm from a country where the US Democrats would be considered centre-right.

Re: Do you think that Trump & Co. will ever have to face real criminal penalties for what they've do

(Anonymous) 2025-05-25 08:09 am (UTC)(link)
"And I'm from a country where the US Democrats would be considered centre-right."

That's what gets me about a lot of political hysteria surrounding liberals in America. I had a phase where I exclusively talked to different stripes of leftists (center-left socialists, anarchno-communists, Marxist-Leninists, etc.) and read theory, and Democrats are center-right in the grand scheme of things, they just have more socially liberal views (pro-LGBT, pro-healthcare, pro-choice) in comparison. They're still capitalists and leftists have consistently argued their "progressive" views are for the sake of increasing capital (ex. Pride month merchandise). Meanwhile when Obama was elected people in my deep red state were losing their minds about how "Obamacare" was a socialist communist takeover in the making, despite his administration having similar foreign and immigration policy as his predecessors.

Re: Do you think that Trump & Co. will ever have to face real criminal penalties for what they've do

(Anonymous) 2025-05-24 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
it depends on whether or not there will be another election in the US after this. i have a feeling the midterms will have a lot of democratic wins being contested or "overturned" by this admin and there's a possibility trump will start a war to prevent an election in 2028 or won't leave office and nothing will be done.

assuming there will be another election, it depends on whether the next administration will have the balls to go after him and not be like Garland who wanted to pretend nothing happened for 3 years until it's too late to do anything. however, it's possible US Americans will be stupid enough to vote for Trump Jr if he runs, effectively giving Trump Sr a 3rd & possibly 4th term in office.

i'm betting trump's cronies may pay a price at some point but trump himself will likely get away with everything the same way he always does. that's why i have to believe there is a Hell.

well, Biden wrote pardons for his family so they aren't for sure.

(Anonymous) 2025-05-25 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Those politicians know how to escape the law.

Re: well, Biden wrote pardons for his family so they aren't for sure.

(Anonymous) 2025-05-25 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
LOL

Re: well, Biden wrote pardons for his family so they aren't for sure.

(Anonymous) 2025-05-25 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, did they give you another break from tonguing duty again?

Re: well, Biden wrote pardons for his family so they aren't for sure.

(Anonymous) 2025-05-25 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
1/10 - and that's a generous pity point. Do better, and try to find something more fulfilling to do with your life so you don't feel the need to uncreatively troll like this.

Re: well, Biden wrote pardons for his family so they aren't for sure.

(Anonymous) 2025-05-25 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
I do personally think this was a bad thing and set a bad precedent! But also Trump's use of the courts to persecute his "enemies" is an extremely bad thing.

Re: well, Biden wrote pardons for his family so they aren't for sure.

(Anonymous) 2025-05-25 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, I understand why Biden did it. He had every reason to believe that Trump would act maliciously against people just for giggles. As for the "bad precedent", ordinarily I'd agree but let's be honest here - Trump doesn't need any precedent as an excuse to abuse his power. He was always going to do it anyway, regardless of how high a road Biden took. So Biden chose to protect innocent people from being persecuted by a spiteful, childish tyrant.

Re: well, Biden wrote pardons for his family so they aren't for sure.

(Anonymous) 2025-05-26 08:32 am (UTC)(link)
Dems used courts against Trump while he was a candidate first. Imo Biden is more guilty of misusing the law for sure.

Re: well, Biden wrote pardons for his family so they aren't for sure.

(Anonymous) 2025-05-25 07:59 am (UTC)(link)
Biden pardoning Hunter was a stupid move, but you can't act like that's worse when Trump pardoned all of the Jan 6th insurrectionists after that...

Re: well, Biden wrote pardons for his family so they aren't for sure.

(Anonymous) 2025-05-26 08:33 am (UTC)(link)
Both are bad.