[ SECRET POST #1014 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1014 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 091 secrets from Secret Submission Post #145.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 3 4 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 4 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom.livejournal.com]

137. http://i37.tinypic.com/33fcjkj.jpg

[likespring.livejournal.com]

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Yeah, no. Part of the reason I enjoy slash is because I DON'T identify with ANYONE in the pairing. But thanks for playing the lesbian = man game!

[sarajayechan.livejournal.com]

I hope you're just hopelessly naive and sincerely don't realize the shitstorm this is gonna cause. If not, fuck you. :D

[(Anonymous)]

This thread is gonna be so awesome.

[kitty-wake.livejournal.com]

Ah yes. I'm sure that's exactly what the Lesbian Collective think.

"I am Sappho of Borg. I shall project myself into one half of your wank fantasy. Resistance is futile."

[vontriz.livejournal.com]

Of course, it coincides with why lesbians love the penis so much!

Ohaitroll.

[seiberwing.livejournal.com]

*checks watch* It's time for someone to attempt to analyze people's interests in yaoi without any regard for the opinions of yaoi enthusiasts again? My, how the hours do fly.

[iiiskaaa.livejournal.com]

It might be a little bit presumptuous to suggest that you know why ANYTHING turns on ANYONE other than yourself. Especially when you're speaking for a large group of people.

Just saying.

[mahoshin.livejournal.com]

...HOW ABOUT

So, do you wanna say that all lesbians have GID, think that they're men, or can relate to men from saying this? Another shitstorm for the books *waits*

[antiva.livejournal.com]

I want to call troll because of how often these fail arguments/comparisons have come up lately.

/blissfully naive, maybe

If not... Tell us more on how we really feel, anon!

[(Anonymous)]

Cool story, bro.

How about this: we all stop worrying so much about why other people like what they like.

[cybersky.livejournal.com]

*joins in the the "uh, no"*

I like yaoi well enough, but if we're going to play this silly "projection" game, I'd much sooner take something with at least one female character I can relate to. =/

Do not pass go, do not collect $200.

[daniela-lynx.livejournal.com]

Y'know, I've been in the internets enough time to just lol at this kind of thing.

If you are a troll: Pffff. This one is older than water. 0/10

If you are not a troll: Kindly go educate yourself in kink and stop trying to analyse what floats other people boats.

[midare-shinami.livejournal.com]

Troll, you're not even trying. :(

*Waits for Michael Jackson Popcorn Gif*

[kinkme.livejournal.com]

That is all.

[aranoki.livejournal.com]

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume that you just don't have much of an idea of what you're talking about. For the record, I don't even like yaoi (slash is fine but no sex please), but if I did I really wouldn't want to be putting myself into the place of one of the characters. I like to keep a strong divide between my real life and my happy fictional place. 8|

[blackbluesock.livejournal.com]

...you're pretty clueless about lesbians aren't you. Either that, or a troll.

Despite having been refered to ask acting 'manly', I love being a women, and have never ever wished I had a penis. <3

[(Anonymous)]

Except het is really hot and while slash is fun, the sex is not even remotely interesting. Try again.

[kita0610.livejournal.com]

OH HAI TROLL.

[miss_prince.livejournal.com]

Lesbians ≠ men kthxbai

[radio-nurse.livejournal.com]

Actually, I'll go against the grain for a moment and say that I /can/ project myself into men - if I relate to the character. It works the same way for a female character. It's not something gender-specific, and I don't think it's related to the fact that I'm gay.

[oflittlebrain.livejournal.com]

What the fuck is everyone's deal about knowing people's ~mysterious reasons~ for fapping to what they fap to? Must we all be armchair psychologists for entire sexualities? Why can't we understand the difference between fantasy and reality? Why can't we just be happy with the conclusion that what people fantasize about does not necessarily coincide with what they actually identify with sexually?

[skelody.livejournal.com]

Dude, people have a right to think. What they think may be really wrong or really offensive or whatever, but it's their right to think -- and by putting their hypothesis out here like this, OP at least will learn something.

Jeez.

I read the secret more as "lesbians identify because it's a same-sex couple", but that kind of ignores all the heterosexual slash fans, so no dice.

[gethenian.livejournal.com]

cannot... reply... coherently... laughing... too... hard...

[poisontea.livejournal.com]

Except no. Lesbian here. Pornwise: I like yuri in general because holy god it's hot, I like het in general because holy god it's hot, and I like yaoi in general because holy god it's hot. Sex is hot. As long as I don't have to stare directly at a penis or deal with one IRL, seeing a character in that kind of excitement is hot. For anything related to sex involving a male or males, there's a reason that the facial expressions and body's movements are infinitely more exciting than their body parts and any dick-insertion, to me. And that's the visual aspect; with stories, there's such a strong removal between seeing male sexual organs and having them described (usually not in much detail) in text that it doesn't tend to bother me at all.

Story-wise -- ship-wise, no porn? The pairings are awesome if the characters are awesome and they have a relationship (or even possible relationship, given their personalities) that is compelling to me. Het, yuri, or yaoi. And I find most relationships between characters interesting enough that I could be compelled to ship it.

I can semi-easily project myself into a character, in a general sense, no matter what their gender is, if I like/identify with the character enough. This isn't because I'm a lesbian; this is because I'm a writer. Strictly speaking, I can project myself as easily into male characters as female characters a lot of the time because I'm more genderfluid than anything, but that's another story; not all lesbians can identify with males. At all. Lesbian =/= less of a girl, or more of a boy. And porn-wise, I can't really project myself into a male character easily simply because of the difference in parts; I have no idea how anything would feel or what the experience would be like, at all.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but... if you can acknowledge the fact that the people in this thread are reasonably angry, and look past their anger to what they're actually saying, you should be able to see why your assumption is an incredibly insulting one. If you're not a troll and you sincerely just are trying to understand something that confuses you, why not just ask a few of the people you're confused about, and listen to what they have to say? You'll probably get more than just one answer, too, because it's not the same for everybody across the board. People enjoy what they enjoy for different reasons, and if you're so far removed, you won't be able to "understand" just by guessing.