[ SECRET POST #6764 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6764 ⌋

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[thewakokid]

Well, I'll just breeze on past the obvious point of how I think I probably speak to more right wingers than you and find most of them don't want trans people dead, skipping right over the part where I question how in touch with reality you are and how much of your reality is based on what other people TELL you their political opponents think... I mean why would they lie about their competition?

We'll just skip over all that obvious shit and jump straight onto the fact that if I ever encounter a maga guy who thinks their life will be significantly improved by removing trans people from their country - or mortal coil - I would outline same facts as above. It would all also equally apply to them as it does to you.

Would I expect them to be willing to listen any more than I expect you to? Oh absolutely not. Doesn't make it not true, tho.

You know, I will throw you a bone on this one point because regardless of how common it actually is, I do believe there will be SOME right wingers who openly talk about how much they want you dead (must be awful for strangers to wish you dead!) And if you have legitimate concern that they will get their way, or try to, my advice IS bullshit. Tolerance only works on a conceptual level. Only tolerate the concept of unacceptable people. Once your face to face with a person who attempts to alter your physical reality in a way you can't endure telling yourself they dont matter simply wont be enough.

At that point my advice changes: Be armed and be proficient. Assuming you're a yank. If you're a Brit then RIP, brother.

I'm kidding on that last point, even in the UK there are limited steps you can take.

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[(Anonymous)]

Nayrt but are you seriously this naiive that you believe only the words "I want you dead" count as wanting people dead? And the systematic dismantling of any and all support for certain groups of people (be it trans, disabled or other) that ensure/support their survival and the intentional rejection of their very existence somehow ... doesn't really count because they didn't use the literal words "I want you to die".

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[thewakokid]

I'm not the one that set the standard of "the people loudly screaming for your death".

If that they meant was "The people I believe want me dead" I would have had quite a different direction to go.

They wanted to claim a lack of ambiguity, so thats the standard.

As to the other stuff, there ARE other reasons to dismantle a system than the desire to see he beneficiaries of the system dead. Even IF you believe that is the inevitable outcome, you still have to acknowledge that might simply be an undesired but unavoidable by product.

Like, ok- Make any right winger this offer "Either we get rid of medicaid completely, or we keep it for everything except trans stuff. And abortions, No more abortions. In fact let me sweeten the pot! Actual funding within medicaid to encourage and assist DEtransitioning. And free MAID for any trans person who wants it. Total trans death, just like you want."

Now, tell me how much you have a finger on the pulse of the average right wing maga chud, tell me, do you think they take the offer?

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[(Anonymous)]

The MAGA person would go with the option they think makes the libs cry more, even if they hurt themselves in the process. And if their guy can look like a hero on top of that, that's just a bonus.

In this case, they'd definitely choose the one that puts the wimmenz in their place and takes steps toward erasing trans people. That way, they can feel like big boys and big girls who think their internalized misogyny makes them one of the boys (spoiler: it doesn't).

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[thewakokid]

Uh huh. Well, good to know we're all mentally sound and in touch with reality here. No mad men here, nosiree.

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[thewakokid]

Ok, you know what, the sarcasm was inkind and unhelpful, I apologise. But really, you would benefit by talking to !ore right wingers.

Not snarky centrists like me, not internet trolls, not people already in a fight with you and looking to score points, or people whom you want to score points with...

And if you ever get the opportunity, try to resist the urge to correct them or try to fix them - instead try to work on replicating their internal logic, on understanding them, on finding out not what piece of info they are lacking that makes them inferior to you but on what series of priorities and values led them to their point of view.

I realise I'm telling you "You will be better served by working on understanding and emulating their internal map when your not in an argument" WHILE you and I are in an argument. Specifically after I'd just insulted you. I recognise you've no reason to see this as anything other than a tactic... But its good advice all the same I think. Consider it later. Tomorrow maybe. Day after.

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[(Anonymous)]

Nah. I know how they work, no need to wakosplain to me.

And forgot to clarify, I and ayrt are a different anon.

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[(Anonymous)]

One of the highest people in the US has literal Deus Vult tattoo and you think this is all exaggeration.

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[thewakokid]

Inshallah you will come to understand how greatly you have helped me.