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fandomsecrets2007-04-15 04:02 pm
shahni.livejournal.com) wrote in fandomsecrets2007-04-15 04:02 pm
[ SECRET POST #100 ]
⌈ Secret Post #100 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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In my opinion, seme/uke and top/bottom are the equivalent of one another. I believe this because, to my knowledge, seme means "to attack" - AKA to STICK IT IN HIM - and uke means "to receive".
I understand that yaoi manga/anime does portray the seme and uke as certain stereotypes. However, I do not believe that the terms seme and uke are the stereotypes in and of themselves, as there are semes and ukes that break from that form.
For instance, in the yaoi manga/OVA Haru wo Daiteita, the seme, Katou Yoji, is the younger and more effeminate of the two. In fact, some would say he's probably the whiniest of them--mostly because Iwaki won't reciprocate his twu wuv at first. This just goes to show that not all semes are hardass mother****ers.
So, yes, in conclusion? I think it's fair to say that I can hate the cliched seme and uke stereotypes, without hating semes and ukes. Why? Because, hey, semes and ukes can have personalities of their own.
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But what I was arguing is that the stereotypes are there for a reason: like I said, there are ukes and semes that break the mold but the "mold" is definitely there. So when people say "uke" and "seme" when they're casually talking about stuff, the stereotypes are what they mean. Hate how people do it, sure, no one's stopping you, but I'm just saying it's weird to do that when like, in 90% of yaoi, it holds true.