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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2025-08-16 02:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #6798 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6798 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2025-08-16 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know, it looks like an earth tone (sometimes used for day), linen (a common fabric especially if it's colder), empire-waisted (the style of the time), square neckline (a common style of the time) undress (aka morning or day dress, a casual dress a woman might wear for reading, or sewing, etc.). Someone who knows more about the fashion of the time is going to have to point out what is wrong with it to me. Maybe what she's wearing under it? I can't see it all that clearly, but maybe it's supposed to be a full under-slip dress. If it's supposed to be a chemisette as a modesty filler, then yeah, that's wrong.

oops you didn't see that

(Anonymous) 2025-08-16 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Regency is not my period but I know enough to know you're on the right track. I think the only objection is whether that is genuinely a men's shirt; the buttons are on the "mens" side and Regency women didn't really wear anything buttoned at all, especially as a bottom layer. Even if she's outside gardening or something in the scene, there's no reason - not even comfort - for her to be wearing a buttoned shirt in that time period. Doubly so if, as I recall, the characters of the book are supposed to be of a non-laboring class and no one in the house would even own a shirt like that.

Re: oops you didn't see that

(Anonymous) 2025-08-17 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Right, but is it supposed to have buttons or is that just a wardrobe thing for ease of use? Like, would it be arranged differently when they are actually filming so any buttons that are there don't actually show?

Re: oops you didn't see that

(Anonymous) 2025-08-17 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt - Men's shirts didn't have buttons down the front like that, nor collars like a modern men's shirt. Women didn't wear shirts like that underneath their gowns, they wore a chemise which looks like a very basic slip dress pulled over the head with no buttons, and a wide scoop neckline.

I don't really see how this outfit could be arranged so that the buttons didn't show because the gown in the pic has a low neckline. A fichu wouldn't be enough to fully hide that collar. Maybe if she wore a high-necked pelisse, but then why have a shirt collar with buttons at all? It'd be easier to wear something that didn't have fabric that would bunch up beneath whatever you're wearing over top.

(Anonymous) 2025-08-17 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not an expert, but I think the general issues are that it looks like rather rough fabric/style/cut for someone who's from the landed gentry class. This was an era where people like the Bennett girls would likely wear nicer muslin, even if they were at home. The outer gown is... close enough? Albeit looking a tad cheap and baggy. If it's a morning gown, it still doesn't look quite right, mostly because of the layer underneath. They didn't wear shirts with a collar like that. You'd instead likely have stays and a chemise as the innermost layer, and there wouldn't be long sleeves or collar with points on a woman in this time period.

I think fandom's main concern is that this dress looks like something a maid might wear, not the daughter of a comfortably well off gentleman, which is what the Bennett family was. That and the slightly drab color makes them worry that it's going to end up like the 2005 adaptation, where the director wanted to emphasize that the Bennetts were not as rich as Mr. Darcy, so he had them looking rather disheveled and far too informal and they ended up looking like they were farmers rather than landed gentry class. That wouldn't be in keeping with the novel.