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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2025-08-21 06:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #6803 ]


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(Anonymous) 2025-08-21 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Studies have shown that pirating mainstream tv shows and movies don't actually cut into any profits. Pirating books though, especially not mega-authors, absolutely does.

(Anonymous) 2025-08-22 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Yup. I remember reading that awhile ago and that's when I decided not to pirate books or indie stuff, but the fact it really doesn't do much to mainstream stuff means I can go ahead without guilt on that front!

(Anonymous) 2025-08-22 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
How? The same principle from TV shows and movies or even videogames can be applied to books. People who pirate books usually don't want/can't spend money on those same books. But some of the same pirates will like a book that much that they'll end up buying a copy for themselves/other or even recommand it on the internet, creating buzz around it.
Those types of studies are usually all non-sensical, but if you have a pretty good one I'd like to read it, please.

(Anonymous) 2025-08-22 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
People who pirate mainstream tv or movies were never going to pay to see them anyway, either through buying a ticket or through watching ads/paying for a subscription. People who pirate books can use the library, which helps the author, instead of pirating, which doesn't.

(Anonymous) 2025-08-22 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I don't actually know anyone that goes and buys the books or movies after they pirate them. I keep seeing people have this argument, but irl I have never seen it play out.

(Anonymous) 2025-08-22 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe you only know averagely wealthy people IRL or you are in the USA where access to stuff is cheaper/easier? Because a lot of poor people pirate stuff, but if they get wealthy enough they get physical/legal copies of stuff they like. Particularly for comics, books and videogames. They also tend to buy a lot of merch.
I know that because I personally did it, as did a lot of fellow fandom friends who grew up poor.

OH and basically all hardcore weaboos did it. Read the scanlations online and then collect the mangas/action figures when they are available.

(I agree with movies is kind of different because almost no one collects DVDs anymore. But eh they get streaming services? who buys digital movies? I don't know anyone who EVER did it)
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[personal profile] amalthia 2025-08-22 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
I pirate ebooks, however I also make a real effort to use the library for the ebook first. I also wishlist ebooks on Kobo, so when there is a sale/discount I can purchase the ebook. I don't even 99% most of what I download. I just like knowing I have a copy.

The real challenge is a lot of ebooks aren't on Libby, or there is a 6 month or longer wait for the title. Libby also has limits on how many people can borrow the title. It's real money sink for public libraries to offer digital resources. However, it's still a way to support authors.

(Anonymous) 2025-08-22 10:23 am (UTC)(link)
I realize I'm just an anonymous internet commenter, so you've no reason to believe me on this, but I buy tons of books after pirating them. I've bought around 900 ebooks, and probably 1/3 of those I pirated first and bought later.