[ SECRET POST #6813 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6813 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

it does seem like, not exactly a plot hole, but a little strange. i feel like the first book in particular was more in the vein of...hm, idk if i can describe this properly. traditional older children's books, where kids are just kind of subject to the whims of adults, and stuff is sometimes unjust or nonsensical, and the kids just roll with it because they're used to it? i read a comment recently about roald dahl books and how they nail that sense of helplessness and lack of autonomy that you have as a kid. because you are a kid and just do what you're told. most adults are (generally) rational and want the best for you, but when you run into ones who aren't, you are still subject to their whims and have limited control over what you do and what happens to you

[(Anonymous)]

. traditional older children's books, where kids are just kind of subject to the whims of adults, and stuff is sometimes unjust or nonsensical, and the kids just roll with it because they're used to it?

I completely agree, and that's also why we get the switcheroo at the end with the Gryffindors winning the Cup even though Slytherins were already celebrating. It's not adult reader logic, it's kid reader logic.

[(Anonymous)]

basically this. when I run into adults trying to nitpick plot holes in HP it's almost always from the first 2-3 books which were clearly written to fit into the genre "for children with lots of whimsey and shenanigans that wouldn't actually happen in the real world." you really do have to take your logic brain off the hook and just soak in the goofy kid lit.

I don't think OP is wrong to go "wait, what??" but then you move on to, it's a book about 11 year olds written for 11 year olds who would absolutely accept that being in detention is the the worst thing ever even at magic school. and for better or worse the author has to make up a really dumb reason for kids to be nailed for rule-breaking including a nice mix of moral and immoral/bully reasons. it's almost formulaic in its inanity but lbr yall ate it up when you were 10 years old and read Harry Potter first.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. It's true that things might not make sense from an adult perspective, but from a kids' book perspective, it's not anything out of line. The books definitely shifted in tone later in the series, but the first one especially has a lot more of the whimsy, and that often means that from an adult lens things don't make perfect and complete sense.