[ SECRET POST #6820 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6820 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Clarence]



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[Akane Narita, Hot Gimmick]



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[Ape Escape]



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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

And just because you don't like something doesn't make it objectively bad.

[(Anonymous)]

…do you know what objectively bad means? I ask because your comment genuinely makes it seem like you like you don’t.

My issues with TLJ are purely subjective and I didn’t list them here since they are irrelevant to the discussion. I did enjoy the movie though. Despite the subjective and objective issues.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes I do. I think when it comes to media, a lot of people really don't understand the difference and think their personal taste is objective. It sounds like the person who originally commented doesn't like pace change, so they think that makes pace change objectively bad. Not how it works.

[(Anonymous)]

So no, you don’t. Those issues are objectively bad as they critique the movie as a whole and aren’t influenced by personal preferences. Subjectively, TLJ is bad for relegating POC actors to a subplot that didn’t serve the narrative. Objectively, the useless subplot undermines the film. There’s a stark difference you don’t seem to grasp.

[(Anonymous)]

Again, those are subjective things. You think it didn't serve the narrative. You think it undermined the film. That is not objective. I don't even like those scenes, but I do think they serve the narrative. I pointed out a couple reasons why above.

There are things I don't like about TLJ. I really dislike Poe's plotline and the fact that I believe he was turned into a subordinate idiot in a way that made me really dislike him. I dislike that the movie wants us to still think he's a hero at the end. I believe he's a badly written character. But that's my personal take. Plenty of people think he's a great character.

[(Anonymous)]

Those aren’t subjective things LOL I think you’re actually right that a lot of people don’t understand the difference but you’re wrong in this case. And ironically, you’re wrong about what is objective vs subjective. Those are absolutely objective things.

And back to the point: they were not the fault of the director. They were the direct result of studio meddling and the majority of reasonable audiences understood that. Which is why Rian Johnson has had so many successes since TLJ.

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[(Anonymous)]

first day of class my film professor said something to the effect of, unless the sound was mixed incorrectly or the camera cut off an actor's head and it wasn't an artistic framing, everything in film is subjective. I suppose he meant to extrapolate to a lot of artistic pursuits, but that stuck with me after his exercise to show how editing changes perspective.

I have a feeling ayrt is trying to articulate something else but is hung up on their opinion of the way a scene affected the narrative as being objective instead of subjective. other-anon, plz, that's still subjective because you can't point me to Rules of Film and show that it violates Rule 22 therefore objectively bad.

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[(Anonymous)]

Ok. You and AYRT are right. I’m wrong. Critics are wrong. Rian Johnson is wrong. But YOU are right. Thank you for delivering us of the evil of film criticism. Good nonny.

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[(Anonymous)]

for the love of god get off the internet and go to film school if you want to learn to be right.

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[(Anonymous)]

JUST KISS ALREADY

[(Anonymous)]

Nah pacing is always one of the things studios and critics have on their checklist. Narrative flow is real and you probably even saw the chart for it in school.

[(Anonymous)]

Yep, I took film courses in college and pacing was always one of the things we discussed whenever we watched a film. It's like mise-en-scene-- it can be objectively good or objectively bad.