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(Anonymous) 2025-10-23 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)I did not ship these two until Love and Thunder. I didn't really like Jane at all until this movie. I don't get the hate Love and Thunder gets. It was almost as good as Ragnarok.
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(Anonymous) 2025-10-23 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)Oops, forgot the subject line
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(Anonymous) 2025-10-23 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)I'm glad you liked it, nonny, I did not. I will never like it.
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(Anonymous) 2025-10-23 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)no subject
My feeling is that it's a matter of degree and novelty. (Speaking as someone who moderately enjoyed Ragnarok and then found Love and Thunder grating and disappointing.)
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Compared with Ragnarok, I think that Love and Thunder took some of that Watiti-ness up a few levels (and was no longer quite as new and refreshing), so that's part of why they got different reactions.
Personally, I didn't like a lot of the humour in Love and Thunder. And it teased some things that I was interested in, but then I was disappointed by the execution -- Jane definitely being a big one. I was so ready to have more focus on her and be won over to the character that I've wanted to like for a while... I'm not sure why it didn't land for me.
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For those who did like Jane a lot more in this one, do you have a feeling for what changed or what about her part of the story you especially enjoyed?
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That makes sense. I did feel like. Natalie Portman was doing something different, maybe taking it a little more seriously.
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(Anonymous) 2025-10-24 10:48 am (UTC)(link)I liked Jane in the other movies too, but in the first movie, I felt she was easily overshadowed by her way more personality-ful sidekick Darcy, and in the second movie, I also really liked her scenes and her role in the story, but there were some kind of weird moments in that film where I felt she had some flat Strong Female Character things going on, where the way she behaved was more for, like, entertainment value rather than because they were consistent with her character or how she specifically would behave in certain situations. I've never felt she was as much of a real, ordinary person with her own, consistent characterization as she felt in Love and Thunder.
Those are my thoughts anyway. I've always liked her in all the movies, and thought she was a really interesting character, but Love and Thunder was a movie that made me want to actually give her a hug, as if she were a friend going through a hard time. I guess she just felt real to me. AND they were able to tie her story to, like, what it means to be a superhero, whether being a hero is a self-serving or self-destructive choice or both or neither. Really surprising and refreshing to see superheroism tied to real-world dilemmas and ordinary existential feelings in an MCU film, and I was both really happy that Jane got to be the person through which those themes get explored, and also frustrated that they had underutilized her before and immediately wrote her off afterward.
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Thanks for such an in-depth comment, very interesting. I think I definitely saw and appreciated the bones of that, but the execution wasn’t quite right for me. It feels like the kind of thing that must have spawned lots of thoughtful fanfiction expanding on those themes and issues with Jane.
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(Anonymous) 2025-10-24 03:51 pm (UTC)(link)ToT
I still liked Jane in Love and Thunder but felt like the overall story wasn't good =(