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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2025-10-29 07:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #6872 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6872 ⌋

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[personal profile] feotakahari 2025-10-30 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, you aim low.

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(Anonymous) 2025-10-30 12:25 am (UTC)(link)

I wish people would stop complaining that only the sympathetic demons looked "human."

Like, no shit? Audiences barely identify with, or care about, ugly humans in media. And in real life, too, lbr. They literally care more when animals get hurt or killed. Imagine how little they'd care about ugly demons being tortured and butchered. There isn't an instrument in the universe small enough to measure it.

(Anonymous) 2025-10-30 12:34 am (UTC)(link)

A skilled writer is able to make virtually any being sympathetic, "ugly"/monstrous or not. Godzilla is sympathetic even though he is a giant radioactive monster. Brave little toaster made people sympathize with a literal fucking toaster. Wall-E had people sympathizing with a rusty robot (and not even a humanoid one at that). People sympathized with Quasimodo from the Hunchback from Notre dame and he was ugly as sin. Let's not forget Shrek. The list goes on.


Also having a fictional race be a blatant stand-in for real life minorities but having the good/sympathetic members of that race look more like their oppressors while the evil members look more "monstrous"/nonhuman is rife with some pretty unfortunate implications(Eg. if demons = arabs, humans = (white) Americans but sympathetic demons look almost entirely like humans but evil demons look inhuman....)

(Anonymous) 2025-10-30 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
How much of "audiences don't sympathize with ugly characters" is tied up with "the media hardly ever portrays ugly characters as sympathetic, or as main protagonists"?

The audience hardly ever gets the chance.

(Anonymous) 2025-10-30 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Fair point
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2025-10-30 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
And in animation, you can use your art style to show a character as cute while still making it clear they'd be ugly in a more realistic style. Like Disney's Quasimodo.

(Anonymous) 2025-10-30 05:57 am (UTC)(link)
This. I'm currently rereading the Dressrosa arc in One Piece and Senior Pink is a fairly beloved character despite looking like he does (or rather because he looks like that). Bon Clay isn't winning any beauty awards either but he's unanimously regarded as one of the best and most beloved characters in the story.

Both of them have great story lines. The audience can love unattractive characters as long as the author puts the same care into them as they do in their attractive characters.