[ SECRET POST #6872 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6872 ⌋

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[fscom]

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[philstar22]

I hate it too, but at least it is slightly better when it is consistent. What makes me genuinely angry is when people use "men" for men and "females" for women. Or "girls."

[iff_and_xor]

Yeah, that’s a really big difference. I see a lot of non-native English speakers using “males” and “females” very neutrally without meaning to evoke the normal English connotations. But using one and not the other gets my hackles up a bit.

[(Anonymous)]

I have a kind of theory on this but I'm too tired and out of it right now to really explain it coherently so I apologize in advance. But I sometimes see even adult women describe themselves as "female" instead of "woman" and I think a lot of it is that society values women more highly if they're young/attractive. And a lot of people see the term woman as indicating that the person is older, so they use girl, or if they want to avoid using girl they use female instead. Men don't have nearly as much of a stigma with aging so no one cares about calling an adult male, a man. In fact "boy" is generally dropped young, you're just not usually going to see someone describe a 23-year-old male as a "boy"

ALSO there isn't, like, a kind of age-neutral term for women. Men have "guy" and maybe even "dude" that aren't super age restrictive. Most people probably aren't going to use "guy" for an 80-year-old man, but you could easily see it used for someone in their 20s or their 50s. There really isn't an equivalent with women.

[(Anonymous)]

Like on Reddit I'll see posters describe themselves as an "x-year-old female" when they're an adult and could say woman but seem to not want to

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, just personally, in my mid-30s, I’m happy referring to myself as an adult, but I still feel weird about calling myself a woman. While I’m not scared of being old, I don’t feel like a “woman”. I’m sure that’s partially about a sense of immaturity and partially about a sense of failing to meet gendered expectations. At least from the outside, “guy” seems like it has a lot less baggage.

[(Anonymous)]

Ladies are of any adult-ish age though. 30 year old lady. 40 year old lady. 50 year old lady. I default to that.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I'm annoyed that "male" and "female" took on such a chud reputation because male/female is pretty handy when you want to be inclusive of all ages (girl/woman), classes (lady) and still want to be formal/professional (gal/bitches).

Especially as we seem to be doing a push for a greater differentiation between girl/woman with terms like "under age girl." All girls are under age! Idk, some 20-somethings are girls even if they are women.

One more thing misogynists took from me ::shakes fist at sky::

[greghousesgf]

yeah, me too

[(Anonymous)]

Same. My sister calls women "females" and yes, she's a conservative fundie Christian Pick Me with a conservative fundie Christian husband.

I always feel so uncomfortable when she spouts off about women being submissive and following men's lead.

I just...I can't convince her to face her own internalized misogyny. It's always somehow a woman's fault. If she gets hurt or abused, she did something to deserve it. And I guess she can't see that she does that to herself so it makes her angry other women get hurt like her. She also gets angry when women get divorced or try to hold their abusers accountable. It's so exhausting seeing the mental gymnastics she goes through to place blame on a woman or girl somehow, and I'm just on the side listening to her BS.

And I know not to push against her POV too much. She uses those opportunities like a debate bro. It's not about the nuance of hearing other people's perspective. It's about weaponizing people's words against themselves so that she wins the arguments therefore her beliefs are "the truth".

It's more effective to let her rattle off her nonsense and eventually see her words come back to bite her in the ass.

[(Anonymous)]

"Oh but it makes sense because they're not human!" 1) they're always only barely not human and 2) once you find yourself using the phrase "gentlemales", you should know you've gone too far.

[iff_and_xor]

Thanks for the added context, I don’t read in this genre and I was wondering about exactly this

[(Anonymous)]

"Gentlemales"
Ew. Eeeeew.

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[(Anonymous)]

I find the trend of calling men “males” and women “females” in romantasy to be cringey AF. It just sounds so cold and clinical.

It kinda reminds me of the Ferengi.

[(Anonymous)]

I hate it in general. To me it's a very scientific way of describing, like you are in a nature documentary. It just sounds/reads weird.

[(Anonymous)]

"Let me describe my observations of the feeeemales"

[(Anonymous)]

This is a trend? It just sounds so clinical.

[(Anonymous)]

Hard same, I think of Ferengis every time someone says 'females' when they just mean 'women' and/or 'girls'.