[ SECRET POST #6875 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6875 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I can't get over the use of "most likely" in missing the point of Disco Elysium. They MASSIVELY missed the point of it. It's like saying The Wire would be better if it was about a girl's school in the alps and then saying that take "most likely" misses the point.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't understand where people are getting "she said DE would be better if-"

She didn't say that. She said is she wants a separate game about something else, with the same "insanely well crafted narrative system and wonderful writing"

Then people jumped all over that, just like this.

[(Anonymous)]

SA

If someone said The Wire's writing and direction are A++ superb but they're not into crime dramas, and they'd love a show about teenage heroes fighting vampires that had the same amazing quality of writing and direction... would you assume they want to change The Wire to star Buffy the Vampire Slayer?

The stretches people are making to internet hate on this person are wild. :\

[(Anonymous)]

Their dismissive eyerolling at "another gritty crime drama" (even asking why another one needs to exist?) and their disdain at the main character does imply they think their cat in the alps idea is better though.

[(Anonymous)]

It implies they would like it better, and people can have personal preferences. It's not demanding or calling for an existing game to change itself, yet people act like it is.

The response was and still is so out of proportion to what was said.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not demanding the game change (obviously impossible) but it does imply with the dismissive phrasing that they think the game (or A game, if you like) would be better if it was about something completely different, which unsurprisingly upsets people who believe the game is good BECAUSE of its setting, characters, and plot, which this person doesn't seem to care for. Given how heavily Disco Elysium deals with racism, governmental corruption, poverty, mental health, and political ideology, it's not a surprise that fans reacted badly to the implication that this person thinks the game (or A game) would have been better if it didn't have any of those things. It sounds a lot like the alt-right outrage over games being "woke" or dealing with social issues - I'm sure that's not what the OP intended, but it easily fits into that discourse which just makes people angrier. And all this happened on twitter so of course it blew up into a big thing. It's not really a surprise.

If they'd only said they wanted a cat in the alps game with DE's great narrative system and writing, then I doubt it would've been such a big deal. Combining that with the eyerolling dismissiveness and disdain for DE itself though is what really made people defensive. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of course, but that doesn't mean that their opinion won't piss a lot of people off.

[(Anonymous)]

Two things can be true at once:

1) This person missed the point and deserves to be eyerolled at

2) Turning someone into a meme for literally years and years is far beyond 'being defensive' and an overblown reaction

[(Anonymous)]

This person made a series of tweets that encapsulated something (intentionally or not) that's a massive source of intense controversy in gaming currently. There's a greater context outside of this tweet on its face that explains why it got as big as it did, and why it's still being held as emblematic of a laissez-faire attitude that has larger reaching, political ramifications. The rise of cozy games that sand off the edges of uncomfortable things (a cozy Airport Security simulator I saw recently for example) also keeps these tweets alive since it ties into that whole thing too. I don't think it has anything to do with this person personally, just their opinion.

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you, you summed it up perfectly. Disco Elysium is a game that deals unabashedly with some pretty heavy topics, and saying "eww, why do we need a game like this, it should have been something else instead" comes across as implying that those are things that shouldn't be in a game. It's no surprise that people reacted badly to that.