[ SECRET POST #6878 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6878 ⌋

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[fscom]

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Transcript by OP

[fscom]

I miss Ship Manifestos.

'Here is why my ship makes sense or is fun to ship' was so much more fun and actually got me to consider ships I otherwise never thought about, than the current climate of 'my ship is going to be canon and if you don't agree with me you're a deluded idiot' or worse accusing those of don't agree with being -ist in some manner.

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[amalthia]

I also miss the ship manifesto community. It was a fun way to discover new ships and almost all of them had fic recs to with the nice screencaps.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh same. They were largely agreed to be lighthearted fun and a way to plug your ship, so to speak. Like sure you’d get some dickheads who’d try and ruin the fun, but for the most part it was about showing people why your ship was compelling, not trying to convince everyone that it was going to happen.

I also liked them as a way to see smaller and more niche ships that didn’t get the same attention as the juggernauts and I often found myself reading a manifesto for a ship I had never once heard of just enjoying the OP’s enthusiasm.

Shipping fandom has always has it share of issues, but with modern fandoms insistence on canon or bust it does feel like a good chunk of the fun is being actively killed in favour of stupid pissing contests. And I have no interest in that.

[iff_and_xor]

I’ve never heard of this, but it sounds lovely.

I really enjoy learning about things people are enthusiastic about, especially if they can articulate why they enjoy it so much. Even if it doesn’t do anything for me personally.

[(Anonymous)]

There are several hundred posts here (starting from 2004): https://ship-manifesto.livejournal.com/

[(Anonymous)]

Yes! Other people's enthisiasm is my kink 😆 No but seriously I love it and love reading about what people are passionate about.

[(Anonymous)]

BIG same. I loved ship manifestos-- it was such a fun little outpouring of passion, and it sold me on a few I might otherwise have missed. Especially for niche ships! But I also think it was really great for comic book ships, where someone would say 'if you are interested in them, these are the specific runs you want to pay attention to', saving everyone the trouble of digging through decades of comic book history alone. Plus, there'd often be fic recs, too!

[(Anonymous)]

Definitely better than, "you're a bigot and/or otherwise terrible person if you don't ship my ship, or if you ship this ship over here that I personally dislike."

[philstar22]

Oh man yes. I wish one of these had been done for my current fandom.

[(Anonymous)]

The ship-manifesto livejournal still exists (and it's mirrored a few different places, I think), though the most recent post was in 2018. A bunch of older manifestos are still there.

And there's an AO3 tag, too.

[paperghost]

There's a tag on AO3 and Tumblr, but the latter isn't as dense compared to the LJ :( I'd like to see it brought back. I considered writing one last summer for Neocities, but I never finished the intro.

[(Anonymous)]

fanifesto exists but like many dw communities it seems to have died after an initial flurry of activity.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I'm still making them lol. I've made like 4 since 2018 or so. I will say that there are ways to bash other pairings as part of a ship manifesto or to claim that this ship is so much more progressive than the canon ship or whatever, and you're a better person with good taste for shipping it.

But yeah, generally speaking, it's a mode of doing fandom from a different time, which tended to avoid judging people and making up a life story about them just based on what ships they had.

But you should read my ship manifestos! I post them on Dreamwidth, mostly. Also, although it's been defunct since 2023, you might want to check out the things people wrote for meta_manifesto!

[(Anonymous)]

Ship manifiesto was so fun, I loved discovering new ships I never had thought about, they were very creative and it was fun to imagine how some ships would work.

Canon purists always have existed, I remember seeing them on Deviantart, but it's true they were also counterpoint by many non-canon shippers who didn't cared about them. Now you can't ship anything that isn't canon or what they perceive to be canon because otherwise they accuse you or jump at you for not shipping what they like.