[ SECRET POST #6886 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6886 ⌋

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[fscom]

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Transcript by OP

[fscom]

When it comes to fanfic, I’ll happily read any character being any sexuality. Give me all the gay sex between characters who only have straight sex in canon. Or the other way around. But I can’t read it if the story makes them and/or the world around them suddenly super queer-friendly. I know that’s a satisfying or comforting fantasy for others, but for me they’re just not the same characters anymore if you take away all their hang-ups about sex and gender.

[(Anonymous)]

I can go either way with this honestly. If someone wants to tackle the bigotry in the setting then sure I'll go along for the ride, but also if someone just doesn't want to I'm also okay with that. Like I'm gay and sometimes I just don't want to read gay fanfic dealing with that, I want the imaginary characters I'm reading about not having to deal with what I deal with as an escape.

Both are valid basically.

[(Anonymous)]

Same. I just want the story to reflect canon. It doesn't make any sense for some character casts or canons to suddenly be openly and straightforwardly queer positive, especially historical ones, even if they were known to have been very down-low queer or willing to turn a blind eye as long as you didn't make a fuss. On the flip side some character casts or canon settings would be super queer positive so having that suddenly be missing in order to write an angsty story where your faves are long suffering little babies uwu is unreadable in the other direction

[(Anonymous)]

+1

I just like it to feel IC for the ship and setting. I do get why people enjoy the fantasy of a homophobia-free fic though!

With historical settings, I find it jarring also when super modern identity terms are used. Again I get that it's a fantasy and not meant to be realistic when the story is written that way but I really like seeing queer characters, in settings where this makes sense, trying to put their feelings for each other into words, despite lacking the easy access to information and community that I have today.

[philstar22]

This. I want things to feel in-character and make sense.

[(Anonymous)]

This really depends on the canon for me. There's plenty of SF and fantasy canons where you have no idea what the background acceptance of queerness or otherwise might be, or where you might know in some parts but have no idea in others, or there's massive variation between places like there is in reality today.

And that said, I was gay in the 90s and compared to that, my life today *is* super queer-friendly, as you put it! I have no problem imagining a little further into the future in a positive way (though I have no problems with people doing the opposite, either.)

[(Anonymous)]

Like if I want to read a story where homophobia doesn't exist, there are PLENTY of sci-fi and fantasy settings that will give me that.

But I'm PRIMARILY a fan of media from and about some of just the wORST times to have been queer-- I'm a fan of these things as a queer man who wants stories that reckon with these things! And I don't want to have these anxieties ironed out of my favorite characters, I want them to seek joy DESPITE! Because things are hard where I live right now and people are trying to make them harder, and now I have to find joy despite!

[(Anonymous)]

+1!! I feel the same.

[(Anonymous)]

+1000

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, it feels tone-deaf to read a story set in the present day in a canon where queerness isn't addressed at all one way or another, and have the shipped couple immediately and casually tell all their friends that they're together, without hesitation over how they may react.

I know most of it's wish fulfillment by queer writers, but it still comes off to me as like "lol the writer was obviously straight if they think it's that easy."

[(Anonymous)]

Or it's set in an area where it really is no big deal, or in a context in which the majority of the couple's friends are themselves queer.

This idea that, in the present day, it's super difficult and absolutely horrible to be queer everywhere is simply not based in reality.

[(Anonymous)]

Perfect fandom choice for your secret, OP.

[(Anonymous)]

is this art of walton goggins and timothy olyphant? :O

[sabotabby]

I think it's from Justified (which I'm currently watching). Those two characters have. Er. A lot of sexual tension. I agree with OP that having them in a suddenly queer-accepting environment would turn them into totally different characters.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't really care about that so much, as long as the story reflects canon.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree, some of my favorite ships are ones where the characters struggle with their sexuality or the expression thereof. I like reading about them being imperfect and working through shame. Or just being ashamed of their own desires in a sexy way.