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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2025-11-16 03:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #6890 ]


⌈ Secret Post #6890 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2025-11-17 09:01 pm (UTC)(link)
There are two facets to this for me.

One is that no children are involved in the creating of explicit fiction featuring heavily-underage characters. So even in the event that the person who is writing that content does have pedophilic inclinations, they are not committing harm by creating explicit fictional content about children.

The seconds is that the vast majority of people who write and/or read heavily-underage explicit fiction have zero pedophilic inclinations. Whatever it is they find hot about fictional underage noncon, it's not actually about kids qua kids. It's often not even about themselves really. I suspect a lot of the time, one of the things it's about is the idea of the experience of sexual pleasure and/or desire for sexual pleasure divorced from any sort of intellectual understanding of sex. It's a conceptual kink that's almost impossible to explore without involving some kind of noncon - even though violation is not actually the point or the draw. And then of course there's also just the sheer taboo of it. I think people tend to interpret "it's the taboo that's hot" to mean "it's the specific depravity of the taboo that's hot, but I think for many people that's often not so much the case. Often by "it's the taboo that's hot," what people mean is that it's literally the erotic tension of wanting that which is forbidden that is hot; the push-pull of desire and resistance/denial. Heavily underage content is hot for some people because the "FORBIDDEN" side of the push-pull equation is about as strong and as incontrovertible as anything can be - which means that the "DESIRE" side of the equation can be equally intense, which for some people equals maximum hotness. The fact that it involves kids is, in this regard, basically incidental. I'm sure there are a number of other explanations for "what people are actually kinking on when they kink on underage fiction," but this comment is already long enough.

I don't actually expect to change your mind on this, anon. But there was a time when I would have agreed with you, so I feel like I have more understanding of where your stance is coming from than a lot of people here, and I'm less bothered by it because I understand it, so.

If there's one thing I'd like to add it's a suggestion that you think about any kinks you might have that don't line up with how you'd feel about that same thing IRL. You probably have at least a couple. The fact that they aren't as "fucked up" as certain others is not important for this particular conversation. What's important is that you yourself have things you enjoy in fiction that you wouldn't feel the same way about IRL. Why is that? I think the more you reflect on it, the more obvious it will become that when other people have kinks that seem really fucked up and grotesque to you, they are processing them in the same way you are processing your own kinks. Ultimately, fictional kinks usually aren't about the plain facts of a story's content, IMO, but about underlying concepts of eroticism and how those concepts strike chords in us, or don't.