[ SECRET POST #6910 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6910 ⌋

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[fscom]

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[fscom]

Yeah, I'll say it, I'm an adult woman who mostly like media made for kids, like cartoons to sell toys and YA novels. I'm breaking many barriers, I'm sure…

My actual secret is: How many times do we need to hear:
"This media made for kids is surprisingly dark and deep, and violent!!"
Before we realize that, yeah, that's not weird or unexpected... kids like digestible violence, kids can think, children media always had these topics.

Can we stop parroting this to justify ourselves now?

[(Anonymous)]

People who say that have either forgotten or never understood what they were watching with Looney Toons.

[iff_and_xor]

Maybe I have forgotten or didn’t understand or just didn’t watch enough in the first place… what kind of stuff would you describe as “dark and deep” in Looney Tunes?

I associate it with cartoon violence that I guess can be seen as dark if you read harder into it, but isn’t really intended to have that immediate effect on children.

[(Anonymous)]

Of course it's not intended to have that immediate effect on children, that would be terribly concerning. But violence is such an inherent part of humanity that we do include it in children's entertainment because it is entertaining for us as a species regardless of age.

When it comes to the deep, the first thing that comes to mind is the cartoon about the wolf and the dog. They would plot and carry out tons of violence to each other and then clock out and have lunch together. It's a funny joke on the surface level but give it more than a minute's thought and you have some commentary on capitalism in there.

[iff_and_xor]

Thanks, that’s a good example and not one I remember seeing as a child

[(Anonymous)]

“Morning, Sam.”
“Morning, Ralph.”

[(Anonymous)]

Arguably those-- at least the Golden Age ones-- were never purely for kids to begin with.

[(Anonymous)]

I assume people who say these things just aren't familiar with kids media, or are being dumb for the article/clickbait/etc they are writing.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed! But it's annoying how often people say it. Like, The Secret Garden begins with Mary hiding under a table, alone in a compound surrounded by the corpses of those who've died of cholera - the few surviving servants have fled.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know. Sometimes you get kids media that is emotional and has some violence. And then sometimes you get kids media that has dead babies who've rotted forgotten about in homes for weeks.

The latter is surprisingly dark for kids media.

[(Anonymous)]

Kind of curious what you are referencing! It does sound dark, very!, but the way it's conveyed is key here. Because kids can have a pretty dark imagination themselves.

[(Anonymous)]

I like kid's stuff too! Sure, there's some that's totally mindless fluff, but like you said, a lot of it has more depth than adults give credit for. Kids aren't stupid! And the best children's media isn't stupid either.

[(Anonymous)]

Adult who's a fan of children's media as well, here-- my favorite genre, in (almost) every media is horror. And that very much came from my early years. I was enraptured by the scary parts, every time-- the wicked witch's ominous sand timer (and then EVERYTHING about The Return to Oz), the rats of NIMH, Chernobog and the fighting dinosaurs in Fantasia, the elaborate death trap in The Great Mouse Detective! Any time death hung over a character's head, any time we were given something dark and inhuman...

It's GOOD for kids to have scary things, and deep thoughts, and thorny questions, and tragedy-- it's good for kids to experience big emotions in a safe way, before they have to face terror and grief out in the real world! And so many kids have to grapple with those things in their day to day lives-- for them, fictional worlds provide a road map, but also the comfort of knowing that you're not alone in fear, in pain.

[(Anonymous)]

LMAO I do think it's funny how adults feel about a need to find an excuse to enjoy things that aren't exactly targeted toward them